She thought pleasing everyone was love until it cost her health, identity, and voice.
Eleanor MacDonald unlearned self-abandonment and rebuilt from truth.

In this powerful episode, Kathy Baldwin sits down with Eleanor MacDonald, a transformational coach and trauma-informed healer who knows what it means to lose yourself while trying to keep everyone else happy. Together, they talk about breaking the pattern of self-sacrifice, the roots of emotional codependency, and the moment Eleanor chose self-worth over survival.

You'll hear how to recognize when caretaking becomes control, why self-trust is the foundation of healing, and how choosing yourself doesn't make you selfish—it makes you whole.

👉 Connect with Eleanor: https://eleanormacdonald.com

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Eleanor MacDonald

• "Self-abandonment wears a mask called loyalty."

• "I thought love meant losing myself—until my body said no."

• "Healing began the moment I told the truth, even when my voice shook."

• "Boundaries aren't walls; they're bridges to respect."

Kathy Baldwin

• "You can't pour truth from an empty self."

• "Every pattern you unlearn is a door to freedom."

• "Choosing yourself is not selfish—it's sacred."