What if Gaston wasn't actually the villain? Beauty and the Beast might not be exactly what you think, and the lessons about reframing your story.
3 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:
- Think about the story you want to be able to tell about yourself, and the best version of yourself.
- Identify several people that you truly admire, and study their traits
- Model yourself after those people and start developing those traits.
Try one this week and comment which you're starting with!
In this episode, Joey Carlson, entrepreneur, attorney, and expert in helping people rebuild after divorce, joins us to explore Beauty and the Beast through a completely different lens. From Joey's journey building businesses in unexpected places (yes, including recruiting workers from American Samoa for a Utah turkey farm) to helping divorce clients rewrite their narratives, this conversation unpacks the power of storytelling in business, law, and life. We discuss:
- A controversial hot take: Is Gaston actually the misunderstood hero of Beauty and the Beast? Or at least not the villain.
- How reframing narratives unlocks solutions where none seemed possible
- Joey's path from snow cones to cell phones to staffing underserved communities
- Why divorce is an opportunity to rewrite your story, not just survive it
- Lessons from entrepreneurship about believing your own vision
- The difference between empathy and empty platitudes when someone's struggling
- How Jelly Roll rewrote his story (click here to listen to his interview)
- Why "it's going to be okay" doesn't help (and what does)
Whether you're navigating divorce, rebuilding after a business failure, or trying to tell a better story about your life, Joey's insights on vision, belief, and patience will give you practical frameworks for moving forward.
ABOUT JOEY CARLSON: Joey Carlson is an attorney and entrepreneur who has built businesses ranging from rural cell phone stores to innovative staffing solutions for underserved communities. Having personally navigated divorce, Joey now works with RCG Law Group helping clients reframe their narratives and build hopeful futures through one of life's most challenging transitions.
Connect with Joey:
🔗 Carlson Legal Group: Click here
📱 IG: Click here
💬 Continue the conversation:
- Team Gaston or Team Beast? Defend your choice in the comments!
- Which of the 3 actions are you trying this week?
- What's a story in your life that needs reframing?
ABOUT YES AND LAND: Yes And Land explores the leadership lessons, relationship dynamics, and hard choices hidden in the stories we love. Hosted by Ryan Gregerson, a family law attorney, Disney enthusiast, and business coach for law firm owners. Each episode connects familiar narratives to real-world wisdom you can actually use. Here, we say "Yes" to the reality of yesterday and today. And we say "And" to the possibility, growth, and imagination of tomorrow.
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