"I am a mess of contradictions" - RG

I did not think I particularly liked this book, but I kept listening, and I haven't been able to stop talking about it. I've been prefacing conversations with "Have you heard of Roxane Gay? Well, she says . . ." The book gave me a lot to think about - starting with just how L'Eggs is still a viable brand.

Every year, there's a great debate among a lot of women lawyers about pantyhose. Yes, I'm writing this in 2015. No, I am not kidding. The East Coast contingent declares wearing flesh colored Brillo pads stuck tightly to one's legs an absolute necessity, sorry they're expensive, uncomfortable, and likely to develop ugly and very unprofessional runs. Here on the West Coast, most of us just don't wear them, liberally applying lotion to avoid ugly dryness while simultaneously risking shocking staid Judges. There is common ground: we all shave our legs.

In "Bad Feminist" (2014), Gay argues that the mythical good feminist is humorless, doesn't care about fashion, doesn't like men, won't have children, and certainly doesn't shave her legs. Gay doesn't live up to those standards (and who set them anyway?) and neither do the rest of us. My favorite feminist icon, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, literally changed women's lives, arguing - and winning - important cases for working women before becoming an Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court. Ginsburg had a long, successful marriage; took time off to care for her husband when he had cancer; has two children; has gotten several style icon awards; wears lace jabots with her black robes; and as 'Notorious RBG' ("Notorious RBG: The Life and Times of Ruth Bader Ginsburg" (2015)) has an unparalleled sense of humor.

That raises the question: what is a feminist? Gay doesn't find a "good feminist" anywhere, ignoring herself, the three women of the US Supreme Court, and the quiet feminist, Hilary Rodham Clinton (HRC) - while at the same time, ripping into Sheryl Sandberg, COO of Facebook, and author of "Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead" (2013). In Gay's judgment, Sandberg can't be a feminist because she's always been privileged, she doesn't struggle with child care providers, and she has housekeepers. Well, the CDC is probably interested in the new mold species growing in my bathroom, but being unable to afford a housekeeper doesn't make me a feminist. And maybe Gay's using argumentum ad absurdem and I took it too seriously?

It's good to step back and think about the philosophy of feminism, and I enjoyed the think. However, "Bad Feminist" really did not work well as an Audible. Gay tends to wander to new topics in her essays, and sometimes it's impossible to tell if she's digressing or if a new essay has started. The title of the review is a quote of Gay's.

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195 people found this helpful

I couldn't finish it.

Would you try another book from Roxane Gay and/or Bahni Turpin?

I heard Roxane on Cbc and liked her a lot, I was really looking forward to this book. I expected it to be funnier, feminism with a twist of irony.

It's not. It's a good educational read if you're new to these issues, but to me it's just repeating and rehashing depressingly persistent issues in the same way.

I listened to it in bursts, but deleted it with an hour left unlistened. It's a good book, it's just not for me. I think I maxed out my capacity for this type of book on Inga Musico.

I recommend the podcast Another Round.

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A smart read from a refreshing voice

Any additional comments?

This book makes me want to write! Not in anger nor as a rebuttal but in solidarity and homage to the strength and beauty of Gay's words. She has indeed found her voice. I am reminded I too have a voice--and it matters. It was a thought-provoking delight to read what matters to this author.

Her thirty-something year old self spoke to my thirty-something year old self in that she has, as she commented of another young woman in the book, the "gift that comes from more years of living" while still embodying all that is youthful, spirited and witty. This is the grace and nuance of being 30-something and she nails it!

Her essays skillfully and momentarily untangle the cords that often kink when ethnicity, feminism and pop culture collide. Bad Feminist is simultaneously light and heavy, shallow and deep, vulnerable and piercing.

Half way through, I began to grieve this book's inevitable end. Plus, anything narrated by Bahni Turpin is that much better for it.

Looking forward to more from Roxane Gay.

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It's okay

I really really really wanted to love this audiobook but it was just okay. I think I should have read it when it first came out. The narrator was good but I think I was put off by not hearing the author. I always love her in interviews and I was constantly thinking how she would have emphasized some statements over others. I think the narrator tried to show annoyance more than the humor or sarcasm of the actual authors tone.

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Exemplifies what it means to me to be a feminist

"Bad Feminist: Essays" is one of the best books I've read all year (and since it's only January, I'm including all of 2014 in that statement as well). These essays are well thought-out and well argued and I found that even when I didn't agree with Dr. Gay's conclusion, I understood how she got there and respected her opinion. Her writing contains all of the hallmarks of excellent academic writing, though they are more entertaining than any book or article I read in college. I especially enjoyed her essays on the representation of race in entertainment and her explanation of what it means, to her, to be a feminist. I'd give her six stars if it were an option. This is an excellent book.

The narration by Bahni Turpin is also quite good, though her pronunciation of French and Latin words is a bit painful.

I always like to finish a review by listing to whom I would recommend this book, but I can't narrow it down. For the first time ever, I would recommend this book to everyone. I'd recommend it to self-proclaimed feminists, to people who are feminists but refuse to label themselves as such, to people who claim they are anti-feminist because they might see that they aren't, and to people who are genuinely anti-feminist because they might gain a better understanding of what feminism is about.

27 people found this helpful

Great work by a girl from my hometown.

I knew nothing about Roxane Gay when I got this book. As I listened, I kept thinking how amazing it was that she was putting into words many of my own opinions. Then I realized she was raised in conservative Omaha and managed to become a liberal feminist just like myself.

I much prefer her general opinion pieces rather than the critiques of other work (even though I was happy to find I am not the only person on the planet to not adore Girls), but a great book overall.

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Thank god she wrote this book

This is a must read for women every where of every age. I've never connected more with a book. I appreciate her open candor about not being perfect but being awake and conscious and trying. There's so much more to this book and my review could never do it justice.

17 people found this helpful

Bad ________. Definitely not feminism.

Listened to the first chapter and was okay. Tried to listen to the rest of the chapters and I felt like the author kept describing books, movies and TV shows but never getting to the point. It was quite annoying. Also, the book is more of a book about race, discrimination and differences that put black people at a disadvantage rather than talking about feminism. The book should have been called something else related to race than misleading towards feminism. There are some references to it but not quite to make it the whole theme of the book.
If I had a choice to return it I would. I wouldn't recommend it to any of my friends or pay for it again.

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Worth the daily deal, not a credit

Would you recommend this book to a friend? Why or why not?

I would not recommend this to a friend because it was too much of a lecture about society and felt too preachy. It often felt like if you don't agree with Roxane's opinions on the movies and individuals she discuss, then you are stupid and wrong.

If this book were a movie would you go see it?

Eh, I'd probably wait for it to come to Netflix.

Any additional comments?

While I didn't love this book, it definitely gave me plenty to think about. Most of what she said, I agreed with, but it felt exhaustive listening to her go on and on about her opinions. The parts of the book where she talked more directly about being a feminist (or a bad feminist), were the more enjoyable parts. And I did enjoy her thoughts on Tyler Perry's work.

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Every woman should read or listen to this book!

Would you consider the audio edition of Bad Feminist to be better than the print version?

I believe the audiobook is ten times better than the physical book. I have both and much prefer the audio version. Bahni Turpin is such a good narrator. I had to remind myself she wasn't Roxane Gay several times while listening to the book over a course of two weeks to and from my drives to work and home.

What’s the most interesting tidbit you’ve picked up from this book?

It's okay to be a bad feminist. It's better than not being a feminist at all!

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