Oddball Translation

Is there anything you would change about this book?
This isn’t my first reading of Homer’s Iliad, which recounts the legendary assault of the Achaeans on the City of Troy. However, this time out I read a different translation and though it was still largely the awesome feat of literature that I recall, I realized that this particular translation, by WHD Rouse, had, in spots, sapped a portion of the lyrical quality out of the prose.

Perhaps, I’m being overly picky, but there were a number of spots that felt tone deaf or anachronistic to my ear:

A wounded warrior “Took a header off the wall”

Trojans “fleeing higglety pigglety”

“Heart goes pitterpat”

“The metal of their armour rang ding dong”

Zeus “knocked the gods all over the place”

Zeus says: “Hera, don’t get all spiky with the gods.”

If these sound okay to your ear then I think you'll like this version just fine. If they sound odd or just plain goofy to you, I suggest you pick up another translation. I would prefer to buy another translation than to listen to this one again. I feel it really doesn't do Homer justice.

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Best Iliad experience on Audible

The Iliad is one of those books which can be made or broken by the narrator. With this rendition, Anthony Heald has immediately joined my list of favourites (Patrick Tull, Nigel Lambert, Stephen Fry..) He breathes life into every one of the characters and more than makes up for any quibbles you might have with the translation.

I did not quite like the Butler translation read by Lescault. Butler uses Roman names for Greek Gods, and Lescault's narration is rather bland. Heald injects so much energy that you'd find a grocery list interesting (and to be frank, there are bits of the Iliad which are pretty grocery-like in character)

As for the book - well, it's the Iliad! A magnificent crusty old monument whose shadow falls across Western literature through the ages... well worth your time.

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Not a complete Iliad!

Would you try another book from Homer and W. H. D. Rouse (translator) and/or Anthony Heald?

The translation and performance are quite good. A nice balance of poetry and Plain understandable language. Major complaint: the text of the Iliad is not complete! This is a big deal.

What was most disappointing about Homer and W. H. D. Rouse (translator) ’s story?

There seems to be a few chapters missing in which SPOILER ALERT- Achilles kills hector and then is killed by Paris. I am not a classics scholar but I am damn sure that this version is missing part of the standard text of the Iliad. I a phase read other er versions in text and there's no doubt in my mind that this is a glaring error. Seriously unexcusable. If there is some scholarly explanation of why parts are omitted it should appear in the description or some afterword.

If you could play editor, what scene or scenes would you have cut from Homer Box Set: Iliad & Odyssey?

None, it is already missing important parts of the supposedly unabridged text

Any additional comments?

I love audible but this sort of omission is very problematic. This is not the first time when I have suspected that some text was omitted from supposedly unabridged texts. I recall how many other audiblebooks are not divided accurately into chapters, making it almost impossible to refer back to any particular place in the book. Seriously audible, get your act together. We know your parent company has plenty of resources to deal with silly errors like this . Show some friggin effort to ensure the quality of the things you publish you lazy bums!

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Revisit the Classics

I really enjoyed these books in high school and decided to enjoy the story again. I don't know the differences in translation but I thought this one was effective and easy to grasp. The stories are well told by Heald. The recounting of the Trajan War and Odysseus's trip are engaging to new and repeating listeners. This will not disappoint.

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Know What Yor Are Getting First

After reading other reviews, I had to say something for those who don't know. I researched a bit and found the Iliad does NOT contain the Trojan Horse or the death of Achilles, that is apparently in the Aeneid, and ends at the funeral of Hector. They are only mentioned in the Odyssey. So this really is the unabridged version, nothing is left out of Homer's work, it seems people are mixing up other Epics with this, which I will say is easy to do since they had a lot of overlap in their plays and other writings. The quick pace can be hard to keep up with if you don't know the story, but I think that is the point, this reading is more for the experienced reader of Homer. Translational issue will abound, but that's why you have more than one if you can (the many translations of the Bible for example). Anthony Heald was quite upbeat and enjoyable, if you can keep up, but it will take practice and multiple listens. But that is the point with grand Epics of antiquity.

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Phenomenal!

What did you love best about Homer Box Set: Iliad & Odyssey?

Being able to listen to both stories back to back because they feed off of and inform one another. The language, the imagery, the characters, the action. Given that these stories were originally performed live by traveling poets and singers, listening to the story comes closer to approximating the original experience.

What was one of the most memorable moments of Homer Box Set: Iliad & Odyssey?

When Odysseus reunited with his son, wife, and father.

Which character – as performed by Anthony Heald – was your favorite?

Odysseus.

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

Yes, but I broke it up over a month.

Any additional comments?

A must read, a cornerstone of Western literature.

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Two Epics Told Well

I had not read these two epics since middle school/high school, so it was basically like I was studying it for the first time. I really cannot comment on this particular translation because it's the only one I've read.

I like Anthony Heald's voice and style. It may take some listeners a while to get used to him. I had just recently heard him narrate Crime and Punishment, so I was already comfortable with him.

The Iliad is a tough one to get through for me. All the names and gods confuse me. It also took me quite a while to get down which warriors were on which side (and I'm not sure I ever figured out which gods were on which side). The digressions and lists are tedious.

Let's face it: the majority of the Iliad is just the reporting of who killed who.

I've never really been a big fan of the whole "intervening god" thing that the Greeks and Romans have in all of their tales. I can dig their view that fate and fortune trump "freewill." However, in the Iliad things are taken to extreme lengths. I mean it's one thing for Zeus to make a warrior angry so that he goes and kills some guy on the other side; it's another for one of the gods to shield one of the mortals or literally carry them to safety.

I found it interesting that the story of Achilles' death is not included in the Iliad. We know that he will die, and even how he will die, but the actual event is not in the book.

The Odyssey is a much more interesting and enjoyable book in my opinion (I know that technically these are poems and not books, but they may as well be books). While the gods are still obviously always involved, their dealings with one another are largely absent from this story. The action in this story is more than just battle. There are fun stories such as the escape from the cyclops, and the men being turned into farm animals. There is also a satisfying ending, which seems rare for the genre.

Throughout both of these epics I kept thinking "isn't there more to this?" I kept waiting for the story of the Trojan Horse to be fleshed out. The story of the Sirens was a blip. I guess that many of the stories are told or added to in other works or myths.

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a must listen, no way around it

If you think you would like these books then you should just pull the trigger. This recording is great and the story its self is of course wonderful.

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Buy a different version

I've never read the Iliad and so I was excited to listen to it, but I found the translation to be poor and the narrator's voice didn't seem to match the story. I've heard other books narrated by Anthony Heald and they were good, but his voice was just too calm and soothing for this story about war. I also hated the translation, which is ultimately why I decided to return this book. The characters are referred to by their Greek and roman names interchangeably, and it's horribly confusing. The translation also uses some antiquated speech like "doth". I also doubt if this is the full unabridged version as this set includes both the Iliad and the odyssey but it's only 25 hours long whereas another version available on audible has just the Iliad and its 22 hours long.

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Fantastic Narration

If you're looking to listen to an enjoyable translation performed by a captivating narrator, this is the audible book for you!

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