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Maintenance Phase

Maintenance Phase

Written by: Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
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Summary
Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.© 2026 Maintenance Phase Hygiene & Healthy Living Mental Health Awareness World
Episodes
  • Suzanne Somers Part 1
    Nov 3 2026

    In the 1990s, sitcom star Suzanne Somers introduced Americans to one of the bestselling pieces of exercise equipment of all time: The ThighMaster. On this episode, we explore her harrowing early years. Chat, where are we at on punching nuns?

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    • Suzanne Somers Fought Back Against Her Abusive Father—and Changed Her Life Forever
    • Kristen Wiig reads Suzanne Somers' poetry
    • TV GAMBLE: HIGH SALARIES VS. LOW RATINGS
    • After the Fall by Suzanne Somers
    • Keeping Secrets by Suzanne Somers
    • Touch Me: The Poems of Suzanne Somers

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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    51 mins
  • RFK Jr.'s Buckwild Belief That HIV Doesn't Cause AIDS
    Sep 21 2026

    The rise, fall and rise of the most nonsensical conspiracy theory we've ever heard.

    Thanks to Gregg Gonsalves for helping us fact-check this episode!

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    • Buy Aubrey's book
    • Listen to Mike's other podcast
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    • Denying AIDS: Conspiracy Theories and Pseudoscience in a Post-COVID World
    • Impure Science: AIDS, Activism, and the Politics of Knowledge
    • The Duesberg Phenomenon
    • AIDS Denialism Beliefs among People Living with HIV/AIDS
    • HIV Denial in the Internet Era
    • HIV Denial in the COVID Era
    • How COVID conspiracy theories led to an alarming resurgence in AIDS denialism
    • The Man Who Thought AIDS Was All In The Mind
    • AIDS "Dissident" Seeks Redemption
    • Truth and Heresy About AIDS
    • Defending the boundaries of science
    • Justice After AIDS Denialism
    • AIDS Denialism vs. Science
    • The Unbeliever
    • Estimating the lost benefits of ARV use in South Africa
    • Conspiracy beliefs about HIV/AIDS
    • Are HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Beliefs a Barrier to HIV Prevention Among African Americans?
    • HIV causes AIDS: Koch's postulates fulfilled
    • AIDS And The Scientific Governance Of Medicine In Post-Apartheid South Africa
    • The Denialists
    • Has Duesberg a right of reply?

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • Why Don't We Have a Surgeon General?
    Jul 27 2026

    We’re nearly halfway through Trump's second term and we still don’t have a Surgeon General. What gives?

    Support us:

    • Hear bonus episodes on Patreon
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    • Buy Aubrey's book
    • Listen to Mike's other podcast
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    • White House withdraws nomination of Janette Nesheiwat
    • Trump’s Surgeon General Pick Distorted Key Parts of Her Résumé
    • Dr. Janette Nesheiwat takes role at Walter Reed treating Havana Syndrome
    • When Did RFK Jr Start Listening to Calley and Casey Means?
    • What Casey Means and MAHA Want You to Fear
    • Trump’s Surgeon General Pick Is Tearing the MAHA Movement Apart
    • Trump surgeon general pick said mushrooms helped her find love
    • The Dizzying Rise of MAHA Warrior Calley Means
    • Casey Means Poised to Become Nation’s Top Doctor
    • Casey Means discloses financial ties to supplement industry
    • Laura Loomer Targets Trump’s Pick for Surgeon General
    • The Bad Science of Good Energy
    • Trump's Surgeon General Pick Tried to Trademark MAHA
    • Can Trump's latest pick for surgeon general make it through confirmation?
    • New surgeon general pick in deleted posts criticized Trump, RFK Jr
    • Trump’s pick for SG sells supplement with ingredient banned by Pentagon
    • Trump’s new surgeon general pick deepens MAHA-MAGA rift

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    1 hr and 13 mins
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The attention to detail, the critical assessment, the compassion and the humour. It’s all perfection.

Don’t spend another dollar on wellness till you’ve spent a day with Michael and Aubrey.

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This podcast is amazing. Relatable, funny, facts backed by research. All the things the diet industry doesn’t want you to hear!

It’s what needs to be said!

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"Captivating content, insightful discussions, and engaging hosts make this podcast a must-listen. Each episode is a journey of knowledge and entertainment. Highly recommended for all avid listeners."

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