Mary Lou joins Chad for a midweek discussion about Trump's lies surrounding the idea and use of the word "Affordability." They play clips for one another from both sides of the political spectrum and even get into the breaking news about Pete Hegseth's war crimes.

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This week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation is a historic first: all four family members — Bob, Mary Lou, Haley, and Chad — are together in the same room at Bob & Mary Lou’s house.

We break down the most disturbing and chaotic week yet in Trump’s second term — including alleged war crimes, another Dozy Don moment, child-sex criminals being pardoned, over 1.17 million layoffs, and corruption spreading through the DOJ, FBI, military, and beyond.

⚠️ WAR CRIMES — The Double-Tap Strike Trump Won’t Explain

New reporting reveals that the Sept. 2 strike on a Venezuelan boat included a second missile deliberately killing survivors, violating U.S. military law and international law.
Anonymous sources say Pete Hegseth ordered “kill everybody.”
Even Republicans are quietly asking for an investigation.
Congressman Jim Himes called the footage “one of the most troubling things” he’s ever seen.

Questions we debate:

• Is it ever acceptable to kill survivors who pose no threat?
• Will Hegseth or anyone face consequences?
• Does the military still answer to the law?

😴 DOZY DON — Trump Falls Asleep Again

Trump fell asleep during yet another televised cabinet meeting.
His team released a suspicious “summary” of an MRI but not the scan itself. Trump says he doesn’t know what body part was scanned — a claim no one believes.

We discuss:

• Is Trump physically fit for office?
• Why won’t he release actual medical records?
• Is this any different from what Republicans attacked Biden for?

🟦 SIMMER DOWN (Mid-Episode): Family Jingle Bells Sing-Along

Yes. We actually sing Jingle Bells together in the middle of the episode.
It is chaotic. It is festive. It is us.

🛑 TRUMP’S PARDONS — Another Child Predator Freed

44-year-old pardoned Jan 6er Andrew Paul Johnson has been arrested for horrifying child-sex crimes. He reportedly used his Trump pardon to groom a minor.

He’s not alone: at least a dozen Trump-pardoned insurrectionists have since been arrested for violent or sexual crimes.

We ask Mom directly:

• Are these the “heroes” she’s been defending?
• Why is Trump pardoning violent criminals and child predators?

📉 MASSIVE LAYOFFS — Worst Job Losses Since 2020

A new report shows 1.17 million layoffs in 2025, a 54% increase over 2024.
Economists blame Trump’s tariffs and economic mismanagement.

We discuss:

• Why isn’t Trump addressing the layoffs?
• Is this “America First” or economic sabotage?

🚨 MY OWN PRIVATE FBI — Kash Patel Misuses Federal Agents

New reporting shows FBI Director Kash Patel ordered agents to escort his girlfriend’s drunk friend home — and used government jets for personal travel.

We ask:

• Is the FBI now just Kash Patel’s personal concierge service?
• Why is Trump tolerating this corruption?

⚖️ LETITIA JAMES & COMEY — Trump’s DOJ Loses Again

Federal grand juries rejected the political prosecutions of James Comey and Letitia James, leaving Trump with zero wins in his revenge-prosecution spree.

We discuss:

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Haley and Chad hold down another Wednesday episode discussing their upcoming trip to Oklahoma to see their parents, as well as movies and TV shows from their childhoods.

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