Welcome to Bar Student to Barrister, the podcast on yourjourney into pupillage, and beyond into the early years of practice at the Bar, with Chris Kessling, Jody Klaire and our wonderful guest Bibi Badejo.

Bibi was called to the Bar in 2005 and practises from 4PB specialising in family law. She is a Bencher at Inner Temple, an accredited advocacy trainer and the Criminal Course Director of the 2025 Keble Dutton Course. She is the founder of The Advocacy Coach, and host of The Advocacy Podcast providing practical advice for experienced trial lawyers.

In this episode, Bibi shares her journey to becoming abarrister and her insights into the world of advocacy. She discusses the importance of advocacy training, the difference between coaching and training, and how to adapt techniques for different levels of experience. Bibi emphasises the role of self-awareness in advocacy and the impact of her advocacy podcast, where she explores various themes and techniques with expert guests. She also provides practical advice for those starting their advocacy journey, highlighting the importance of preparation and finding one's own voice.

“If everyone could just realise that … whatever accent thatyou’ve got or background that you come from, you just need to be the best you, that your only competition is yourself and let’s develop that.”

Thank you for joining us. We hope you enjoy this episode.

MORE INFORMATION

Bibi Chambers profile https://www.4pb.com/barristers/bibi-badejo/

Bibi on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/bibi-badejo/

4PB https://www.4pb.com/

The Advocacy Podcast https://www.theadvocacypodcast.com/

The Advocacy Coach https://www.theadvocacycoach.com/

The Advocacy Clinic https://www.theadvocacycoach.com/clinic

The Hampel Method of Advocacy Training https://www.icca.ac.uk/post-qualification-training/cpd/advocacy-training/the-hampel-method/

Cross-Examination:Science and Techniques, By Larry Pozner and Roger J. Dodd https://www.doddlawclinic.com/books#cross-exam-science-tech

Point Made, How to Write Like the Nation's Top Advocates, byRoss Guberman https://global.oup.com/academic/product/point-made-9780199943852?cc=gb&lang=en&

Turning Points at Trial: Great Lawyers Share Secrets,Strategies and Skills, by Shane Read https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780985027117/Turning-Points-Trial-Great-Lawyers-0985027118/plp

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In this episode, we meet Donna O’Leary, AI Consultant at DOL Consultancy, a Course Designer and Lecturer at the Law Society of Ireland, and an Irish and UK-qualified solicitor.

AI is something which will have a significant impact on allof us, which is why we were so pleased that Donna recently gave a lecture to ICCA Bar Course students, recorded at the Inner Temple, and entitled ‘AI and the Legal Profession’.

What does AI literacy actually mean?

Why have hallucinations become a big problem for the legalprofession?

How do you use AI in the right way?

You will hear much of the lecture in this episode, in whichDonna explains the AI legal framework; AI terminology uses and limitations; how AI can assist your daily work, and your professional obligations when using it.

Introduced by Lynda Gibbs KC (Hon), Dean of the ICCA, we hope you enjoy this episode.

If you do, please like and subscribe for more.

MORE INFORMATION

Donna on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-o-leary-179583a2/

New guidance on generative AI for the Bar (Bar Council) https://www.barcouncil.org.uk/resource/new-guidance-on-generative-ai-for-the-bar.html

Judicial AI guidance https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/artificial-intelligence-ai-judicial-guidance-october-2025/

R(Ayinde) v London Borough of Haringey [2025] EWHC 1383(Admin) https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Ayinde-v-London-Borough-of-Haringey-and-Al-Haroun-v-Qatar-National-Bank.pdf

Bar Code of Conduct (Part 2 of the BSB Handbook) https://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/the-bsb-handbook.html?part=E3FF76D3-9538-4B97-94C02111664E5709&audience=&csrfToken=&q=

CONTACT

Email: barstudent2barristerpodcast@gmail.com

Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/iccabar/

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-inns-of-court-college-of-advocacy/

Website https://www.icca.ac.uk/icca-bar-course/bar-student-to-barrister-podcast/

INDEPENDENCE

Registration on the ICCA Bar Course confers no advantage inrelation to Inns’ scholarships or awards, Inns’ membership, Qualifying Sessions or Call to the Bar. For more information see the Policy on Independence between the Inns of Court andthe ICCA.

COPYRIGHT

Inns of Court College of Advocacy (part of the COIC) © 2025. All rights reserved.