In this episode of Behind Numbers, host Alessandro Cozzi sits down with Tim Bean, an engineer and founder whose unconventional career journey led him into the world of autonomous defense technology and AI-driven systems — not through a lifelong plan, but through pivotal moments and real-world opportunity.The conversation begins with 9/11, a defining global event that reshaped Tim’s perspective and ultimately redirected his career. Rather than “following his dreams,” Tim explains how he followed important problems, learning along the way and building technology where accountability, ethics, and leadership truly matter.Together, Alessandro and Tim discuss:• How global events can shape leadership paths and career decisions• Why many successful founders never planned their end destination• The difference between ambition and obsession — and why obsession can become dangerous• What it takes to build autonomous systems and defense technology in high-stakes environments• How AI, robotics, and autonomy intersect with ethics and responsibility• Why proximity to meaningful problems matters more than titles or credentials• How strong judgment and values define long-term leadership successThis episode goes beyond technology and AI trends. It’s a deep conversation about leadership, decision-making under uncertainty, career growth, and building impactful technology without a traditional roadmap.If you’re interested in founder stories, leadership development, autonomous systems, AI in defense, engineering careers, or unconventional paths to success, this episode offers rare insight into how meaningful work is built — one decision at a time.

In this episode of Behind Numbers, host Alessandro Cozzi sits down with Frank, one of the rare leaders who has operated at the very top of both the consulting and corporate worlds. Frank served as Chairman and CEO of Deloitte Italy, where he led the firm through one of its most challenging periods, and later as President and CEO of Herbalife, guiding the global organization through transformational change. Today, he is CEO of Finaxstrure, continuing his mission of building strong cultures and elevating people.Frank opens with a powerful truth: culture is the most important factor in your career. Intelligence and talent alone don’t guarantee success—being in the right environment does. If you’re in the wrong culture, you’ll struggle. In the right one, you’ll thrive beyond expectations. This theme anchors an episode full of hard-earned wisdom, personal stories, and unfiltered leadership lessons.Together, Alessandro and Frank explore:🔹 Why great careers aren’t designed—they’re built by delivering excellence in every assignment, no matter how small or unglamorous.🔹 How being proactive, not reactive, creates opportunities long before a title appears.🔹 Why you should choose leaders and culture, not logos, and how staying in the wrong environment is the fastest route to stagnation or failure.🔹 The differences between leading in Europe and the U.S., from negotiation styles to contrasting ideas of ethics, accountability, and transparency.🔹 Frank’s people-first leadership philosophy, built on loyalty, fairness, trust, courage, and compassion—and why employees will follow leaders who consistently live these values.🔹 His toughest leadership moment as Chairman & CEO of Deloitte Italy: arriving to find the firm on the brink of collapse, forced to cut 30% of the workforce to save the organization—and the lessons in dignity, honesty, and courage that shaped him.🔹 How he approached global leadership as President & CEO of Herbalife, managing diverse cultures, intense scrutiny, and rapid decision-making.🔹 How to recognize true talent, why everyone has a “genius zone,” and the leader’s responsibility to place people where they can excel.Frank also offers candid reflections on living and leading in Italy—learning the culture, adapting to the pace, and navigating a society where relationships matter as much as results.This episode is more than a career conversation—it’s a masterclass in leadership, resilience, values, and navigating the realities behind executive decision-making.If you’re a future leader, an ambitious professional, or simply curious about what happens at the highest levels of organizations, this episode pulls back the curtain with honesty, humility, and insight.

In this episode of Behind Numbers, we go far beyond titles and résumés to explore the story of a leader who built her career with conviction, resilience, and an unshakeable sense of direction.

I’m joined by Joy Mbanugo, CFO of CXAI, a publicly traded SaaS company using AI to transform how we experience workspaces. Joy’s journey spans EY, BlackRock, Google, and ServiceRocket—companies where she reshaped finance organizations, led through complexity, and built a reputation for being both deeply technical and boldly innovative.

But behind the impressive career is a story of perseverance, self-belief, and navigating spaces where she often had to push harder than most. Joy shares how her passion for finance began unexpectedly in high school, how her parents steered her toward law, and how she carved her path anyway—earning her law degree while working full-time at EY, moving across continents, and stepping fearlessly into the tech world.

We discuss the pivotal moments that tested her resilience: getting told she was “making a mistake” for wanting to move offices, being pressured to miss law school classes for audit work, or even hearing, “What makes you think you could be a CFO?” Joy reveals how she learned to block out the noise, trust her convictions, and lead with clarity—wisdom she now brings to her teams and to the next generation of finance professionals.

As the CFO of a company at the intersection of AI, workplace innovation, and analytics, Joy shares a front-row view of how AI is reshaping modern finance. From earnings prep to forecasting, memo writing, and real-time insights, she illustrates how AI can become a superpower for CFOs—not a threat. She breaks down:

• How companies can start adopting AI gradually

• Why securing an LLM behind the firewall is a game-changer

• How collaboration inside an LLM will redefine teamwork

• The future skills every finance professional must build

And for leaders wondering how to start implementing AI inside their organizations, Joy explains why it doesn’t require a massive transformation project—just the right approach, the right tools, and a willingness to evolve.

This conversation is inspiring, honest, and packed with insights for anyone navigating a career in finance, tech, or leadership. Joy’s perspectives on conviction, resilience, and the future of AI in the workplace make this an episode you won’t want to miss.