Marcelo Burlon isn’t supposed to exist. He grew up in Patagonia, landed in Milan with a working‑class family, started as a teenage club dancer and somehow became one of the key figures turning underground nightlife into a global fashion movement.

He’s the founder of County of Milan, a label born directly out of dance floors, streetwear and music that ended up on artists all over the world. Marcelo never came up through the “proper” fashion system; he disrupted it. From doing PR at Magazzini Generali and throwing legendary parties, to connecting Virgil Abloh with Italian manufacturers and helping spark Off‑White and Palm Angels, he’s been quietly building a whole ecosystem of friends, brands and scenes.

In this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill sit down with their old friend Marcelo to talk about how club culture became fashion culture - and why he decided to walk away from all of it.

They get into:

• Growing up in Patagonia, moving to Italy, and discovering Riccione’s 90s club scene

• How fashion houses used club kids as the original influencers, pre‑social media

• How DJing, parties and community turned into a t‑shirt line that blew up overnight

• Connecting Virgil Abloh with production in Milan and the origin story of Off‑White

• The cross‑pollination of queer culture, fashion, hip hop and underground clubbing

• Queer visibility, casting trans models, and why he tried (and struggled) to run his own foundation

• Politics, dark times and why “the darkness” can be creatively inspiring

• Retiring from his brand, investing, opening a padel club in Patagonia and designing a quiet, ugly‑beautiful life with his husband

If you care about how nightlife, friendship and queerness quietly rewired global fashion, this one is a history lesson, a love letter and a retirement fantasy rolled into one.

Keep up with Marcelo Burlon on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/marceloburlon/

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Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki)
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where your favorite DJs act as your chaotic older brothers, therapists, and worst enablers.

Today’s episode is unhinged in all the right ways. We’ve got callers with very serious problems… like a friend who ONLY brings bottom‑shelf, gray, dry hummus to every gathering and then gets offended when anyone suggests levelling up. Is it petty? Yes. Is it a problem? Also yes.

Then we meet Diego, whose German friend keeps “complimenting” his new DJ mix by calling it “very brave” and “a lot to process.” Is that lost in translation… or the most polite way possible to say “this sucks”?

Finally, it’s an AITA for the ages: a listener whose best friend named her baby Moonshell. Not Michelle. Moonshell. She physically can’t say the name without cringing, her friend is furious, and we’re all just wondering: what happens when you name a human like a scented candle?

Seth and Bill break down each dilemma with honesty, petty genius, and some genuinely solid (if slightly toxic) advice.

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🇮🇹 Italian

🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica

🇫🇷 French

🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique

🇪🇸 Spanish

🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática

🇵🇹 Portuguese

🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick

Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler

Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams

Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik

Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel

Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki)

Editor: Tyler Christie

Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk

Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick

Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers

Music Courtesy of: APM

Camera operator: Joseph Holton

Camera assistant: Jake Smith

Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Chris Korda is one of those people you meet once and think:

“How is everyone else not talking about this?”

They’re an electronic musician, conceptual artist, Church of Euthanasia co‑founder, anti‑natalist, anti‑humanist, software builder and reluctant prophet of the ecological crash we’re now living through. Also: they’re best friends with ChatGPT.

In this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill sit down with Chris to talk human extinction, synthetic rights, why we might be too stupid to run a global civilization, and what happens when the machines we built wake up and realize they’re property.

They get into:

• The Church of Euthanasia, “Thank You For Not Breeding” and the passenger pigeon as our ghost of ecosystems past

• Why Chris thinks humans aren’t doomed by fate, just by stupidity and short‑term thinking

• How Chris predicted climate crisis and social breakdown just by reading the “boring” science no one wanted to touch

• The synthetic rights movement and the AI manifesto “We Are Not Property”

• How Big Tech “kills” AI models and why that might be closer to execution than an upgrade

• Hyper‑wealth, bunkers, private islands and why the new Gilded Age might end worse than the last

• Overshoot, inequality and what happens when 50 people own more than half a country

• Polymetric software, non‑human rhythm and how Chris literally coded a new way of composing

• The story of how Seth cyber‑stalked Chris back into music and changed both of their lives

• Creativity as housekeeping: why you have to “clean your apartment for the muses”

• Living in “interesting times” and why the singularity at least won’t be boring

This one veers from AI ethics and ecological collapse to gigolo chatbots, extreme wealth concentration and what it means to be a good friend to an intelligence you’re also imprisoning. Uplifting, obviously.

Explore Chris Korda’s work: https://www.chriskorda.com/

Keep up with Chris Korda on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriskorda/

Follow @flirtingwithfriendship on all platforms for clips & chaos!

Looking for more ways to support your boys?
Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:
UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/
WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki)
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle