Bruce shares his journey from managing sheep and goats to building a South Poll seedstock operation, the pivotal experiences that shaped his philosophy, and how he balances practicality with profitability. He also reflects on the importance of family, community, and keeping options open in an unpredictable business.

In this episode, we cover:

• Bruce’s background in agriculture and how he ended up in Bell, Missouri
• Transitioning from sheep and goats to a South Poll-centered cattle operation
• Lessons learned from Burke Teichert and the Rex Ranch about low-input grazing systems
• Why docility and adaptability matter in South Poll cattle
• Running sheep and cattle together, and the challenges of small ruminants
• How Bruce markets lambs and develops bulls with his customers in mind
• The role of lease land in his operation
• Advice for beginners: walk before you run and never say never in grazing

Whether you’re a grazier looking to simplify your system, or just curious about the South Poll breed, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and real-world experience.

Bruce doesn’t overcomplicate things—his success comes from sticking to the basics. His “simple recipe” offers a refreshing reminder that profitability often comes from focus, discipline, and letting cattle prove themselves in the environment they’re meant for. If you’re thinking about South Polls, sheep, or just streamlining your grazing operation, Bruce’s story will give you ideas and encouragement.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Sassafras Valley Ranch
• Greg Judy’s No Risk Ranching (first book)
• How to Think Like a Grazier by Greg Judy
• South Poll Grass Cattle Association

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Josh shares his journey as a sixth-generation grazier managing South Poll cattle, woodland-raised pork, and pasture poultry with his father. He grew up immersed in rotational grazing from the late 1990s, giving him a unique second-generation perspective on regenerative practices. Josh explains how their family transitioned from commercial breeds to South Polls in 2006, seeing immediate differences in heat tolerance, fly resistance, and docility. Today, they run a registered South Poll herd and market animals both as seed stock and direct-to-consumer beef.

Key topics covered:

• Growing up in a regenerative grazing family and partnering with his dad on the farm.
• Transition to South Poll cattle and why they thrive in North Carolina’s hot, humid fescue environment.
• Breeding philosophy with split spring and fall calving seasons.
• Benefits of docility, adaptability, and calving ease in their herd.
• Seed stock marketing and demand for South Poll cattle.
• Building a direct-to-consumer beef business with online sales, pickup locations, and limited home delivery.
• Diversifying with woodland-raised pork and pasture poultry for both soil and business benefits.
• Balancing scaling the farm with off-farm work, including lessons from his Chamber of Commerce role.
• Advice for beginners: focus, clarity, and starting with quality animals or strong customer relationships.

This episode highlights the long-term benefits of sticking with regenerative grazing across generations and offers a candid look at building both seed stock and direct-to-consumer businesses. Josh’s experience with South Poll cattle provides valuable insights for anyone considering heat-tolerant, grass-efficient breeds.

Resources mentioned:

• Harris Home Place Farm: harrishomeplacefarm.com

• Facebook & Instagram: Harris Homeplace Farm
• South Poll Grass Cattle Association: southpoll.com
• The End of Craving by Mark Schatzker
• Steak by Mark Schatzker

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Ann and Bob share their journey from Nebraska crop and cattle farming to building a regenerative grazing operation in the Ozarks. They discuss the challenges of starting over, investing in infrastructure like tire tanks and fencing, and adapting their herd with South Poll genetics to fit their environment. Their story highlights resilience, stewardship, and the pursuit of nutrient-dense beef and healthier soils.

Topics covered in this episode:

• Transition from conventional farming in Nebraska to management-intensive grazing in Missouri
• Daily moves, portable watering systems, and eventually installing 28 tire tanks
• Experiences with cattle breeds including Black Angus, Braford, Corriente, and South Poll crosses
• Marketing steers through private sales, meat business, and occasional sale barns
• Nutrient-density testing of their beef, showing omega ratios close to wild salmon
• Soil health improvements, bird diversity surveys, and ecosystem changes on their ranch
• Lessons learned about rest periods, stewardship, and adapting grazing as a “recipe, not a prescription”
• Future plans as they balance ranch work, family, and personal goals

Why listen to this episode:
Ann and Bob bring decades of hands-on experience, showing how management, not just genetics or land, drives success. From portable waters to garlic salt minerals, they share practical insights any grazier can apply. Their emphasis on stewardship, learning, and resilience will inspire both beginners and seasoned graziers alike.

Resources mentioned:

• Stockman Grass Farmer
• Man, Cattle and Veld
• Top of the Ozarks grazing group
• Redmond Agriculture minerals
• Clear Spring Ranch – clearspringranch.com
• Five Five Coyote Meat Business – fivefivecoyote.com

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Todd Barkley of Barkley Ranch in Southeast Montana joins us to share his journey as a fourth-generation rancher balancing education, cattle, and regenerative practices. Todd talks about building his cow herd through AI, crossbreeding with Herefords, and now introducing Galloway genetics for winter hardiness and fly resistance. He also dives deep into cover crops, soil health, and the powerful role of epigenetics in shaping cattle for the environment. A major highlight is his firsthand experience with Gallagher’s eShepherd virtual fencing system and how it’s changing the way he manages pastures and labor on his ranch.

We cover topics including:

• Todd’s return to ranching after pursuing a teaching degree
• How CRP programs shaped his family’s operation
• Building his cow herd with Angus, Hereford, and now Galloway genetics
• Challenges of managing cattle in a 9–12 inch rainfall environment
• The role of cover crops and organic matter in regenerative systems
• Why epigenetics matters in cattle selection
• Using eShepherd virtual fencing for labor savings and improved grazing management
• Balancing innovation with practical ranching realities

This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about how virtual fencing works on a real ranch, or for producers considering breed selection to better match cattle to their environment. Todd’s perspective shows how combining tradition, experimentation, and technology can strengthen both the land and the herd.

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In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Wyatt Jones of Happy Meadow Farm in Pisgah, Alabama. Wyatt shares his family’s journey from military life to building a thriving grass-based farm, raising beef and dairy cattle, Katahdin sheep, and poultry. Starting in 2021, Wyatt and his wife dove headfirst into regenerative agriculture, learning through mentors, books, and hands-on trial and error. Their story is full of determination, grit, and a willingness to embrace challenges in pursuit of a farming life.

Topics covered include:

• Starting Happy Meadow Farm with limited experience but big vision
• Buying land at auction and the unexpected blessings that came with it
• Early challenges with fencing, livestock health, and learning to rotate animals
• Using blueberries and eggs as initial cash crops to build community connections
• Transitioning from Longhorns and Corriente cattle into South Polls and eventually Fleckvieh
• Experiences with sheep, including parasite management and copper issues
• Expanding into raw milk sales through herd shares and building a loyal customer base
• Wyatt’s shift from the fire department to full-time farming
• The potential of Fleckvieh dairy cattle for grass-based systems
• Planting diverse forages and cover crops to support livestock health and productivity

This episode is perfect for anyone starting their regenerative journey, especially those considering multi-species grazing or exploring dairy opportunities beyond Jerseys. Wyatt’s story highlights the power of persistence, community support, and the courage to “just start.”

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• For the Love of Soil by Nicole Masters
• Grass Productivity by André Voisin
• Dairy Farming the Beautiful Way by Adam Klaus
• Happy Meadow Farm on Facebook

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions
• (00:59) - Welcome to the Grazing Grass Podcast
• (01:33) - MarketSMART Ranching Course Announcement
• (02:25) - Personal Celebration and Family Milestones
• (03:27) - Wyatt's Journey to Farming
• (07:02) - Starting the Farm and Acquiring Land
• (12:49) - First Livestock and Initial Challenges
• (24:57) - Expanding the Farm and Community Engagement
• (41:36) - Transition to Dairy Farming
• (45:36) - The Milking Disaster
• (47:30) - Getting a Milking Machine
• (49:27) - The Emotional Attachment to Dairy Cows
• (52:05) - Exploring Different Dairy Breeds
• (54:49) - The Fleckvieh Fascination
• (58:06) - Managing the Dairy Farm
• (01:08:23) - Marketing Raw Milk
• (01:09:56) - Transition to Full-Time Farming
• (01:13:52) - Famous Four Questions
• (01:24:35) - Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser

In this episode, Hobbs Magaret, author of Herd: Animals That Gave Rise to Humanity and Why We Need Them More Than Ever, joins Cal for a deep, thought-provoking conversation about grazing, ecology, and shifting our perspectives on livestock production. Hobbs shares his journey from ranching in Oregon to working on massive cattle stations in Australia, blending personal experience with philosophical insights. The discussion explores high density grazing, the role of herd animals in human history, how to market regenerative beef, and the radical idea of viewing beef as a waste product rather than the main goal. Along the way, Hobbs touches on corporate politics, ecological ideals, genetic selection for fertility, and the lessons learned from managing vastly different environments.

Topics Covered

• Hobbs Magaret’s background and ranching journey in the U.S. and Australia
• The origins of his interest in high density grazing (influences from Allan Savory and Johann Zietsman)
• Moving from a protein-production mindset to an ecological-function mindset
• The concept of beef as a waste product instead of a byproduct
• Lessons learned from grazing in Oregon vs. Texas vs. Northern Australia
• Managing corporate politics while implementing ecological changes
• Performance art and visibility in agriculture marketing
• Using social media (TikTok & Instagram) to grow influence and sell beef
• The role of hindgut fermenters in ecosystems and simulating their function with ruminants
• Genetic adaptation and breed considerations for different environments
• The importance of fertility as the key livestock selection criterion
• Marketing strategies and the value of storytelling in agriculture

If you’re interested in the future of regenerative ranching, this episode will challenge your assumptions and spark new ideas. Hobbs brings a rare combination of large-scale experience, ecological philosophy, and practical know-how. Whether you’re grazing a few acres or managing thousands, his insights into livestock genetics, grazing strategy, and the deeper purpose of ruminants will help you think differently about your land, your herd, and your role as a steward.

Resources Mentioned

• Herd: Animals That Gave Rise to Humanity and Why We Need Them More Than Ever by Hobbs Magaret
• Allan Savory’s work and holistic management principles
• Man, Cattle and Veld by Johann Zietsman
• How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions
• (00:52) - Career Journey and Ranching Experience
• (09:57) - High Density Grazing and Ecological Insights
• (30:53) - Marketing and Social Media Success
• (32:23) - Writing the Book and Philosophical Reflections
• (45:49) - The Central Thesis: Ecologically Aligned Beef
• (46:46) - Controversial Insights on American Cattle Industry
• (48:07) - Historical Context and Ecological Impact
• (49:53) - The Paradigm Shift: Profitability vs. Sustainability
• (01:01:14) - Genetics and Fertility in Cattle Breeding
• (01:02:11) - Ecological Adaptation and Market Realities
• (01:05:36) - Global Perspectives on Cattle Breeding
• (01:17:44) - The Role of Hindgut Fermenters in Grazing Systems
• (01:20:01) - Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Jaime Elizondo, known as Jim in the United States, to explore his Total Grazing Program. This is a comprehensive approach to regenerative ranching focused on lowering costs, improving soil, and increasing livestock performance. With decades of experience managing cattle in Mexico and the U.S., Jim shares his path from red cattle in the tropics to creating a composite breed suited for harsh environments. He breaks down the importance of African Bos taurus genetics, how to build soil carbon, and the strategies behind stockpiling and grazing timing. Listeners will come away with a deeper understanding of how to manage grazing with nature, not against it.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• Jim’s story from Mexico to Texas and the foundation of his farm, Las Coloradas
• His evolution from red cattle to developing an adapted composite breed
• The significance of African Bos taurus genetics in hot, humid, and disease-prone environments
• What the Total Grazing Program is and how it differs from ultra high-density grazing
• How to build long-lived soil carbon and why it matters
• Stockpiling strategies for winter and how to boost soil and forage health
• Monitoring livestock performance with gut fill and body condition
• The role of coaching and mentorship in successful grazing operations
• Applying these grazing principles to cattle, sheep, and goats

If you're interested in cutting input costs, improving soil, and raising animals that thrive in your environment, this episode delivers a practical and proven system. Jim offers clear guidance based on firsthand experience. Whether you're on a small farm or a large ranch, his insights can help you improve your land and your bottom line.

Resources Mentioned:

• Grass Productivity by André Voisin
• Man Must Measure by Jan Bonsma
• A Sand County Almanac by Aldo Leopold
• The Forage Book by Hutchinson and Metcalf
• Jim’s paper “Soil Carbon” (available on his website)

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Joel shares his inspiring journey from business economics and tech startups to building a fast-growing regenerative ranch. He explains how he used herd shares and ultra high density grazing to expand from a small herd to nearly 500 cows in just a few years. Along the way, he discusses developing hardy genetics, navigating serious labor shortages, and creating a supportive network of investors and mentors. Joel blends economics, history, faith, and land stewardship into a powerful vision for the future of ranching.

Topics Covered:

• Launching a ranch with zero capital through herd share partnerships
• Choosing Oklahoma for its climate challenges and opportunities
• Lessons from tech and startup life that apply to ranching
• Ultra high density grazing and how it multiplies carrying capacity
• Genetic selection for cattle that thrive without inputs
• Using community and social capital to scale
• The hidden economics behind modern ranch failure
• Advice for young or aspiring regenerative ranchers

Why You Should Listen:

This episode offers a rare look into what it takes to build a large-scale regenerative operation from the ground up. Joel is not only focused on grazing methods but also on solving the deeper economic, cultural, and logistical problems facing ranchers today. His practical strategies and vision for the future will resonate with anyone serious about making a living on the land.

Resources Mentioned:

• Smoke River Ranch
• Book: Man, Cattle & the Grass by Johann Zietsman
• Joel’s handle: @untappedgrowth on X/Twitter

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions
• (00:21) - Challenges in Labor and Livestock Management
• (02:30) - Labor Issues and Solutions
• (07:38) - Podcast Introduction and Sponsor Message
• (09:20) - Farm Updates and Podcast Announcements
• (12:30) - Joel's Journey into Farming
• (12:49) - Health Crisis and Nutritional Discoveries
• (16:20) - Educational Background and Career Path
• (18:50) - Starting the Ranch and Bitcoin Investment
• (27:05) - Scaling the Ranch and Herd Share Program
• (39:24) - Challenges and Strategies in Modern Ranching
• (49:37) - The Impact of Historical Agricultural Practices
• (50:03) - The Evolution of American Agriculture
• (51:07) - Challenges and Innovations in Modern Ranching
• (51:48) - The Herd Share Arrangement
• (53:06) - Ultra High Density Grazing
• (55:07) - Building a Supportive Ranching Community
• (56:15) - The Importance of Hardy Cattle Breeds
• (01:07:46) - Scaling and Adapting to High Density Grazing
• (01:14:44) - Future Innovations and Tools for Ranching
• (01:18:29) - Famous Four Questions
• (01:34:31) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts