(Part 2 of 2) - Hey everyone, Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really excited about today’s episode because we’ve got Pastor Chris Mathis from The Summit Church in Edmonton joining us. Chris carries the amazing and contagious message of life-giving hope through Jesus.

Shelly and I have known Chris and his wife Nikki—who, by the way, is an incredible worship leader—since, I think, around 2010.

We absolutely love them and are so proud of all that God’s done and continues to do through their lives and ministry.

Chris and Nikki both have hearts to see people understand their true identity as beloved sons and daughters of God—and to live out of that place of peace and abundance that Jesus promised.

They’re also passionate about church planting and oversee the Summit Church Movement, a grassroots network they founded back in 2009 in Florida.

This conversation is going to be rich—I know you’re going to be encouraged so let’s jump in!

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Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today I have the great privilege of speaking with Keith Giles!

Keith is a former pastor who left the pulpit over a decade ago to follow Jesus. He’s been interviewed on CNN with Anderson Cooper, USA Today, Fox News, BuzzFeed and hundreds of other podcasts and radio programs. He’s a regular contributor to the XM Radio show, “Tell Me Everything”, as part of the weekly “God Squad” segment, and he is the founder and co-host of the “Heretic Happy Hour Podcast”, and his solo podcast, “Second Cup with Keith.”

Keith is also the best-selling author of the 7-part “Jesus Un” book series focused on Deconstruction of the Christian faith, and the “Sola” book series focused on embracing the mystery of the Divine. His latest book, “The Quantum Sayings of Jesus: Decoding the Lost Gospel of Thomas” is available now on Amazon.

Keith currently lives in El Paso, TX with his wife Wendy.

Buckle up… I know you’re going to love this.

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Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today I have the great privilege of speaking with Keith Giles!

Keith is a former pastor who left the pulpit over a decade ago to follow Jesus. He’s been interviewed on CNN with Anderson Cooper, USA Today, Fox News, BuzzFeed and hundreds of other podcasts and radio programs. He’s a regular contributor to the XM Radio show, “Tell Me Everything”, as part of the weekly “God Squad” segment, and he is the founder and co-host of the “Heretic Happy Hour Podcast”, and his solo podcast, “Second Cup with Keith.”

Keith is also the best-selling author of the 7-part “Jesus Un” book series focused on Deconstruction of the Christian faith, and the “Sola” book series focused on embracing the mystery of the Divine. His latest book, “The Quantum Sayings of Jesus: Decoding the Lost Gospel of Thomas” is available now on Amazon.

Keith currently lives in El Paso, TX with his wife Wendy.

Buckle up… I know you’re going to love this.

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Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m super happy to introduce you to my special guest today - Graeme Carle. Born in 1950, Graeme was a devout atheist and evolutionist until 1973 when he had an encounter with Jesus. He went into full-time ministry just a couple years later and spent the next seven years working in churches throughout New Zealand. In 1982, he moved to Wellington and led a team to pioneer, teach, and shepherd a church while also working part-time in the oil industry as a logistics analyst. After fifteen years, he took a brief sabbatical in Nepal, pastoring a medical mission before moving to Colorado as a Bible teacher & ministry trainer. He has worked with (YWAM), he has done itinerant ministry, pastored, taught systematic theology, he has conducted seminars and just about everything else you can imagine! And as if all that isn’t enough, he has also written several books - one of which is the reason I had to reach out and invite him on the podcast.

“Eating Sacred Cows: A Closer Look at Tithing.”

This book changed the way I see giving and offers a fresh, thought-provoking examination of tithing in contemporary Christian life. Graeme challenges conventional understandings of tithing—arguing that it's often misunderstood or misused, especially in modern contexts, and pushes readers toward generosity rooted in freedom rather than obligation.

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Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m super happy to introduce you to my special guest today - Graeme Carle. Born in 1950, Graeme was a devout atheist and evolutionist until 1973 when he had an encounter with Jesus. He went into full-time ministry just a couple years later and spent the next seven years working in churches throughout New Zealand. In 1982, he moved to Wellington and led a team to pioneer, teach, and shepherd a church while also working part-time in the oil industry as a logistics analyst. After fifteen years, he took a brief sabbatical in Nepal, pastoring a medical mission before moving to Colorado as a Bible teacher & ministry trainer. He has worked with (YWAM), he has done itinerant ministry, pastored, taught systematic theology, he has conducted seminars and just about everything else you can imagine! And as if all that isn’t enough, he has also written several books - one of which is the reason I had to reach out and invite him on the podcast.

“Eating Sacred Cows: A Closer Look at Tithing.”

This book changed the way I see giving and offers a fresh, thought-provoking examination of tithing in contemporary Christian life. Graeme challenges conventional understandings of tithing—arguing that it's often misunderstood or misused, especially in modern contexts, and pushes readers toward generosity rooted in freedom rather than obligation.

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Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m so excited to welcome today’s guest—someone whose teaching has absolutely changed my life and reshaped the way I see God.

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger has spent the last 30 years traveling the world proclaiming the stunningly good news of our inclusion in Jesus and His relationship with the Father in the Spirit. He’s the author of 10 books and he earned his Ph.D. at King’s College, Aberdeen under the late Professor James B. Torrance.

Baxter now lives in Brandon, Mississippi with his wife Beth of 40 years and when he’s not writing or teaching, he’s likely cooking crawfish or carving a fishing lure by hand. It's an honor to have him here.

I know you're going to love it!

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Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m so excited to welcome today’s guest—someone whose teaching has absolutely changed my life and reshaped the way I see God.

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger has spent the last 30 years traveling the world proclaiming the stunningly good news of our inclusion in Jesus and His relationship with the Father in the Spirit. He’s the author of 10 books and he earned his Ph.D. at King’s College, Aberdeen under the late Professor James B. Torrance.

Baxter now lives in Brandon, Mississippi with his wife Beth of 40 years and when he’s not writing or teaching, he’s likely cooking crawfish or carving a fishing lure by hand. It's an honor to have him here.

I know you're going to love it!

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Hey everyone and welcome to Jesus the Legend… today I am so happy to introduce Rod Williams. Rod Williams is a compelling speaker and writer with a passion to empower believers to know their true identity and live joyfully out of their present union with Christ made possible by what Jesus accomplished through the Cross of His Grace.

Rod has served in many capacities in churches over the years, including Senior Pastor at The Santa Cruz Church, Senior Coordinator at Cana Seminary and Alumni Professor at School of Kingdom. He holds a degree in Theology from Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College and participated in leadership training intensives at Bethel Church in Redding California, Global Celebration, Jesus Ministry and Global Awakening ministries.

Rod previously worked as an entrepreneur and consultant in Silicon Valley for 30 years developing network computing technology and writing.

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