Misogyny isn’t just something “other people” do. In this conversation, Becky and Taina unpack the invisible ways it shows up in our language, our friendships, our relationships, and even inside ourselves.

From judging women for wearing too much makeup to men who call women “females,” we explore the sneaky red flags we’ve normalized. And we get real about the internalized misogyny we all carry, even as feminists.

We also talk about gay male culture borrowing from Black women, the emotional labor of womanhood, and why calling women “crazy” is more dangerous than it sounds. This episode is a gut-check for anyone raised inside patriarchal systems (so, all of us).

If you’ve ever wondered “Am I being too hard on other women?” or “Why do I feel unsafe in rooms full of women who all look alike?”—this one’s for you.

Here's Becky's Thread that prompted this episode

Discussed in This Episode:

• What misogyny really is—and how it shows up beyond violence or hate
• The difference between external and internalized misogyny
• Everyday red flags in men’s behavior (even the “nice guys”)
• The harm of calling women “females” and judging women’s choices
• Why internalized misogyny makes us distrust or judge other women
• How queer spaces can reinforce misogyny—especially toward trans women
• Gay male culture and the unacknowledged borrowing from Black women
• The emotional and invisible labor women carry in families and work
• How grief, caretaking, and people-pleasing are gendered expectations
• Why it’s not “misandry” when women resist patriarchy
• Judging aesthetics like pink or plastic surgery as a feminist
• Why “all his exes are crazy” is a major red flag
• How internalized misogyny shapes what art, comedy, and leadership we value
• Building feminist friendships and communities that aren’t copy-paste
• What it really means to divest from patriarchy without hating femininity

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Polyamory isn’t what you think it is. In this episode of Messy Liberation, we sit down with Frances Crusoe to talk about ethical non-monogamy, what it really looks like in practice, and how she navigates parenting, faith, and family while living a polyamorous life. We tackle misconceptions (no, it’s not all orgies), explore how jealousy really works, and dig into the radical idea that love isn’t a finite resource. If you’ve ever wondered how polyamory intersects with feminism, religion, and raising kids, this one’s for you.

Discussed in this episode:

• Frances’s journey from church life to polyamory

• The difference between polyamory, polygamy, and ethical non-monogamy

• How she talks to her kids about multiple partners

• Deconstructing jealousy and religious conditioning

• Why consent and communication are the cornerstone of poly relationships

• Polyamory myths and misconceptions (and what’s actually true)

• The intersection of feminism, faith, and love

Resource mentioned:

• “Opening Up” by Tristan Taormino: https://amzn.to/4mfzO2x

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Pedro Pascal’s red carpet style, Malcolm Jamal Warner’s tragic passing, and the chaos around the Epstein files — this episode of Messy Liberation goes everywhere at once. Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown dive into pop culture, politics, astrology, and messy real-life feminism with zero polish and plenty of swearing. From debating Pedro Pascal’s “daddy energy” and Leo season’s chaos to unpacking the Cosby Show legacy and the William McNeil police brutality video, they keep it bold, irreverent, and intersectional.

Discussed in this episode:

• Pedro Pascal’s red carpet moments and breaking masculinity norms
• Malcolm Jamal Warner’s drowning and the Cosby Show’s complicated legacy
• Dating strategically vs dating for love in your 20s
• Melania Trump and Kennedy Center renaming outrage
• Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein files, and MAGA conspiracies
• Police brutality and the William McNeil dashcam video
• Venus Williams’ comeback and U.S. health insurance issues
• Leo season, assertiveness vs aggression, and zodiac dynamics

Resource mentioned:

• William McNeil dashcam video (TW: police brutality)

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