We’re in the middle of a spiritual revolution.

More and more of us are waking up, questioning old systems, and feeling this pull to connect to something deeper. But let’s be real: that awakening? It’s not always easy—and it’s definitely not always clear.

With so much spiritual noise out there—from TikTok trends and “instant manifestation” promises to endless gurus and wellness products—how do you know what’s real? How do you tell the difference between truth and trend? And most importantly… how do you trust yourself on your spiritual path?

That’s exactly what we’re talking about today with the incredible Dr. Amy Robbins—clinical psychologist, spiritual teacher, and host of "Life, Death and The Space Between."

Amy has a gift for blending science and spirituality in a way that feels grounded, empowering, and totally real.

Together, we’re getting into practical spirituality, exploring:

• What it means to truly listen to your intuition
• How to spot spiritual red flags
• The connection between psychological and spiritual self-trust
• How to set healthy boundaries in both your life and your spiritual practice
• Ways to navigate the “spiritual clutter” with clarity and confidence
• Why the most important tool on your journey might just be your own inner compass

If you’ve ever thought: “Am I just making this up?”—this episode is for you.

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You know those moments when life just stops you in your tracks and says, “Nope, it’s time to rethink everything”? That’s exactly what happened to this week’s guest, Mary Beth Rodriguez. Before Mary Beth was leading transformative cacao ceremonies and helping us all slow down, she was living in the fast lane—a chef, food stylist, buyer, and corporate exec, all rolled into one. (Can you relate?)

Then came a health scare that changed everything, sending her on a journey toward healing, nourishment, and the art of ritual. Enter with/ritual, her wellness brand dedicated to weaving intentional, simple rituals into our everyday lives—so we can reconnect with ourselves and actually breathe for a second.

Robyn recently joined Mary Beth for a cacao ceremony and she will tell you: it cracked something open inside that she didn’t even know needed healing. Yes, it’s that powerful.

So in this episode, we’re diving into:

• What really happens in a cacao ceremony (spoiler: it’s not just about chocolate, but you will want a cup).
• How to create small, doable rituals that bring you back to yourself—no matter how busy you are.
• Mary Beth’s own story of transformation—and why slowing down was the most rebellious thing she could do.
• Ways you can bring a little more stillness and magic into your life, starting right now.

Ready to hit pause and find a little grace in your day? You’re in the right place.

MORE FROM MARY BETH + WITH/RITUAL
Curious about cacao, or want to start your own rituals? Visit withritual.com
for Mary Beth's offerings, inspiration, and everything you need to get started.

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You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.

September brought eclipses, shakeups, and deep lessons. Now, as we step into October, what energies are guiding us? Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan returns to share a powerful October forecast that helps us navigate relationships, boundaries, and heart-centered living.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• How the Queen of Cups sets the tone for a heart-centered October.
• Why connection, relationships, and forgiveness (with others and ourselves) are the themes of the month.
• How Libra season invites harmony, listening, and empathy — not just balance.
• The importance of boundaries and protecting your energy as the month unfolds.
• Why the Emperor, Knight of Pentacles, and Six of Cups show us how to create structure and invest in the relationships that matter most.

Michelle guides us through the collective energies of October — reminding us to reconnect, celebrate, and discern who and what truly fills our hearts.

Plus: Robyn shares her go-to practice for protecting your energy (the “freezing negativity” exercise from Sonia Choquette’s Trust Your Vibes).

RESOURCES + MENTIONS

• Work with Michelle Nolan - email her at m@mtnolan.com
• The Freezing Negativity Exercise

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You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.

October 2025 is here, and so are some seriously transformational cosmic vibes!

We're talking to our go-to astrologer, Stevie Calista, to break down everything you need to know about October’s astrology. Think: the search for balance (hello, Libra season!), learning to let go of control, and why you’re not supposed to “have it all figured out” right now.

What’s happening in the cosmos?

• Most of October is steeped in the energy of last month’s powerful eclipse, so if things feel uncertain or in flux, you’re right on time.
• With Libra leading the charge, this month’s big question is: Where are you out of balance? Libra wants us to find harmony, especially in relationships.
• There’s a huge invitation to let go of old patterns—especially the urge to control every outcome (thanks, lingering Virgo energy!). Your soul is leading the way now, even if your human brain wants a roadmap.
• Expect lessons around trust, surrender, and tuning into your intuition. It’s all about finding faith when the next step isn’t totally clear.

If you’re feeling called to slow down, surrender, or just take a breath, that’s your cosmic cue. The universe is realigning you at a soul level—trust the process! Stevie’s practical, heartfelt advice will help you navigate it all.

MORE FROM STEVIE CALISTA

• Visit steviecalista.com
• Follow Stevie on Instagram: @farmhousemoon

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You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.

Have you ever felt like you're giving so much of yourself that you’ve lost touch with who you really are?

We’re diving into a soul-nourishing conversation with Dr. Saloumeh DeGood — licensed clinical psychologist and President of the Sufi Psychology Association.

Saloumeh bridges ancient Sufi wisdom with modern psychology to help us understand and reconnect with our true essence. If you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, burned out, or spiritually disconnected, this episode might just be the balm your soul’s been seeking.

We explore:

• What Sufism actually is (hint: it’s more than Rumi + whirling dervishes!)
• How Sufi Psychology differs from traditional Western therapy
• The deeper meaning of self-knowledge and how it leads to transformation
• A powerful, heart-centered Sufi meditation technique
• Why burnout isn’t just emotional — it’s spiritual disconnection
• How to return to your true self beneath all the layers of thought, emotion, and identity

Plus, you'll hear how Saloumeh’s work helped frontline caregivers during the height of COVID, and how her spiritual approach is healing minds and hearts around the world.

This episode is your invitation to pause, breathe, and remember the deeper you.

MORE FROM DR. SALOUMEH DEGOOD

• Learn more about the Sufi Psychology Association: https://sufipsychology.org
• Follow on Instagram @sufipsychology

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This conversation is medicine.

Meet Hope Firsel -- a certified life and divorce coach, and women’s empowerment guide whose story is one of unimaginable challenges, resilience, and profound personal transformation.

Hope has faced:

• Years of infertility and loss
• A Stage 3 colon cancer diagnosis
• The end of an 18-year marriage

Hope shares how her most painful moments became the doorway to her life’s purpose—and how she now helps other women heal and rebuild from the inside out. Using tools like Rapid Resolution Therapy, Internal Family Systems, and small group coaching, she creates safe spaces for healing and clarity.

In this episode, we talk about:

• How to keep going when you feel like everything’s falling apart
• The magic of Rapid Resolution Therapy + Internal Family Systems
• Co-parenting after divorce (the real stuff)
• Creating new beginnings in midlife
• Why “You’re not broken” might just be your new life mantra

Whether you’re in the middle of a storm or coming out of one, this episode will speak to your soul.

CONNECT WITH HOPE
Website: https://hopefirsel.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefirsel

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Is your spleen psychic? Can you have memories from the future? And what does a haunted doll have to do with your energy field? Buckle up—this month’s Woo News is WILD.

In this episode, Robyn, Karen, and Lisa go full-on woo-curious, asking the big (and bizarre) questions:

• What is splenic intuition, and should we be listening to it? A contestant from Love is Blind UK thinks so.
• Are those “random” feelings really future memories?
• Is there such a thing as too much spiritual exploration?
• Can a cheese reading give you insight about your life?
• And yes—we’re talking about the infamous haunted Annabelle doll and what it taught us about energetic protection

You’ll laugh, you’ll question reality, and you’ll definitely walk away with a few practices (and boundaries) to keep your energetic field squeaky clean.

Whether you’re deep into your Human Design chart, woo-curious, or feeling a little energetically off—this episode will have something just for you.

WOO NEWS ARTICLES

• Paranormal Investigator Dan Rivera Dies on Tour With ‘Possessed’ Annabelle Doll
• Your Consciousness Can Jump Through Time—Meaning ‘Gut Feelings’ Are Memories From the Future, Scientists Say
• "Making me cringe": Netizens react as Patrick relies on his spleen to make decisions on Love Is Blind: UK
• I Let a Cheese Psychic Read My Destiny—Big Mistake or Genius?
• Is Your Woo-Woo Lifestyle Ruining Your Relationship?

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September arrives after August’s wild shake-ups and the infamous Tower card energy — breakups, breakthroughs, and turbulence galore. So what’s next?

We have Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan back with the September Tarot Forecast to help you ground, recalibrate, and find clarity amidst 2025’s ongoing twists and turns.

Michelle unpacks:

• The Seven of Swords, Page of Swords, and Justice card as September’s guiding energy.
• Why strategy and focus are essential right now.
• How to navigate shifting perspectives when life (and the world) looks different than you expected.
• The power of karmic rebalancing and why Justice has returned again this year.
• Practical ways to work with Virgo’s earthy, grounding energy to steady yourself this month.

Whether you’ve been feeling the turbulence personally (hello, core patterns and breakups) or you’re just trying to make sense of the collective energy, Michelle’s insights will give you clarity, reassurance, and practical guidance for September.

If you’ve been asking, “What now?” — this forecast has the answers.

Work with Michelle: email her at m@mtnolan.com

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You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.