We’re in the middle of a spiritual revolution.

More and more of us are waking up, questioning old systems, and feeling this pull to connect to something deeper. But let’s be real: that awakening? It’s not always easy—and it’s definitely not always clear.

With so much spiritual noise out there—from TikTok trends and “instant manifestation” promises to endless gurus and wellness products—how do you know what’s real? How do you tell the difference between truth and trend? And most importantly… how do you trust yourself on your spiritual path?

That’s exactly what we’re talking about today with the incredible Dr. Amy Robbins—clinical psychologist, spiritual teacher, and host of "Life, Death and The Space Between."

Amy has a gift for blending science and spirituality in a way that feels grounded, empowering, and totally real.

Together, we’re getting into practical spirituality, exploring:

• What it means to truly listen to your intuition
• How to spot spiritual red flags
• The connection between psychological and spiritual self-trust
• How to set healthy boundaries in both your life and your spiritual practice
• Ways to navigate the “spiritual clutter” with clarity and confidence
• Why the most important tool on your journey might just be your own inner compass

If you’ve ever thought: “Am I just making this up?”—this episode is for you.

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Listen to "Life, Death, and The Space Between" wherever you get your podcasts.

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"Into the Magic Shop: A Neurosurgeon’s Quest to Discover the Mysteries of the Brain and the Secrets of the Heart" by Dr. James Doty

Visit seekingcentercommunity.com for more with Robyn + Karen and many of the guides on Seeking Center: The Podcast. You'll get access to live weekly sessions, intuitive guidance, daily inspiration, and a space to share your journey with like-minded people who just get it.

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You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.

You know those moments when life just stops you in your tracks and says, “Nope, it’s time to rethink everything”? That’s exactly what happened to this week’s guest, Mary Beth Rodriguez. Before Mary Beth was leading transformative cacao ceremonies and helping us all slow down, she was living in the fast lane—a chef, food stylist, buyer, and corporate exec, all rolled into one. (Can you relate?)

Then came a health scare that changed everything, sending her on a journey toward healing, nourishment, and the art of ritual. Enter with/ritual, her wellness brand dedicated to weaving intentional, simple rituals into our everyday lives—so we can reconnect with ourselves and actually breathe for a second.

Robyn recently joined Mary Beth for a cacao ceremony and she will tell you: it cracked something open inside that she didn’t even know needed healing. Yes, it’s that powerful.

So in this episode, we’re diving into:

• What really happens in a cacao ceremony (spoiler: it’s not just about chocolate, but you will want a cup).
• How to create small, doable rituals that bring you back to yourself—no matter how busy you are.
• Mary Beth’s own story of transformation—and why slowing down was the most rebellious thing she could do.
• Ways you can bring a little more stillness and magic into your life, starting right now.

Ready to hit pause and find a little grace in your day? You’re in the right place.

MORE FROM MARY BETH + WITH/RITUAL
Curious about cacao, or want to start your own rituals? Visit withritual.com
for Mary Beth's offerings, inspiration, and everything you need to get started.

Visit seekingcentercommunity.com for more with Robyn + Karen and many of the guides on Seeking Center: The Podcast. You'll get access to live weekly sessions, intuitive guidance, daily inspiration, and a space to share your journey with like-minded people who just get it.

Visit seekingcentercommunity.com for more with Robyn + Karen and many of the guides on Seeking Center: The Podcast. You'll get access to live weekly sessions, intuitive guidance, daily inspiration, and a space to share your journey with like-minded people who just get it.

You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.

September brought eclipses, shakeups, and deep lessons. Now, as we step into October, what energies are guiding us? Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan returns to share a powerful October forecast that helps us navigate relationships, boundaries, and heart-centered living.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• How the Queen of Cups sets the tone for a heart-centered October.
• Why connection, relationships, and forgiveness (with others and ourselves) are the themes of the month.
• How Libra season invites harmony, listening, and empathy — not just balance.
• The importance of boundaries and protecting your energy as the month unfolds.
• Why the Emperor, Knight of Pentacles, and Six of Cups show us how to create structure and invest in the relationships that matter most.

Michelle guides us through the collective energies of October — reminding us to reconnect, celebrate, and discern who and what truly fills our hearts.

Plus: Robyn shares her go-to practice for protecting your energy (the “freezing negativity” exercise from Sonia Choquette’s Trust Your Vibes).

RESOURCES + MENTIONS

• Work with Michelle Nolan - email her at m@mtnolan.com
• The Freezing Negativity Exercise

Visit seekingcentercommunity.com for more with Robyn + Karen and many of the guides on Seeking Center: The Podcast. You'll get access to live weekly sessions, intuitive guidance, daily inspiration, and a space to share your journey with like-minded people who just get it.

Visit seekingcentercommunity.com for more with Robyn + Karen and many of the guides on Seeking Center: The Podcast. You'll get access to live weekly sessions, intuitive guidance, daily inspiration, and a space to share your journey with like-minded people who just get it.

You can also follow Seeking Center on Instagram @theseekingcenter.