In this wide-ranging and heartfelt conversation, KonMari Club teacher Patty Morrissey sits down with Tara Brach to explore what spirituality truly means. Together, they reflect on the qualities of spiritually awake people, the foundational habits that sustain a vibrant inner life, and the surprising role of humor on the path. They also delve into how tidiness—a central practice in the KonMari Method—can either express control or become a liberating act of presence and care. With two short guided meditations woven in, this interview offers practical nourishment for living in a way that aligns with your deepest heart.

About KonMari Club
The KonMari Club is a yearlong community experience designed to help members bring Marie Kondo's philosophy to life — not just in their homes, but in every aspect of their lives. Through small group coaching, guided reflection, live events, and monthly themes like Self, Body, Time, Money, and Spirituality, members cultivate clarity, calm, and connection as they align daily life with what brings them joy and meaning. To learn more about the KonMari Club, visit konmari.com/konmariclub or follow @konmari.co on Instagram.

About Patty Morrissey
Patty Morrissey, MSW, is the Director of the KonMari Club and a Master Certified KonMari Consultant. She created the Club's transformational curriculum — The Clear & Cultivate Method® — which combines practical tidying wisdom with evidence-based practices in behavior change and well-being. With over 20 years of experience designing and leading transformational programs, Patty helps people live with greater intention, vitality, and belonging. To keep in touch with Patty Morrissey follow @pattymorrissey on Instagram or visit pattymorrissey.com

By learning to inhabit the body, we discover the space and aliveness that fills the universe. In this meditation we are guided through the body, filling different domains with presence. We then open into the continuous awake space that is both within and surrounds the body. When we notice the mind drifts, we relax back to be that awake space, aware of the changing flow of sensations, thoughts, feelings and sounds.

Most of us have encountered trauma either in our own direct experience or with someone in our immediate circle. This talk examines the shame and suffering that arise from trauma and how meditation practices can support a path to full spiritual healing. We focus on practices that help us access a sense of love and safety, and then increase our capacity to bring presence to the unprocessed, unlived life in the body. (Note: For many who suffer from PTSD, therapy is invaluable and these practices are not considered as a substitute.)

Podcast Intro Music: Adrienne Torf (www.adriennetorf.com)