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Complexity is rising, expectations are colliding, and the old playbook is running out of pages. We sit down with author and applied researcher Amy Walters Cohen to unpack the core idea behind her book Ruthlessly Caring to understand how leaders can deliver more value when they replace either-or choices with both-and mindsets that match today’s messy reality.

We start by mapping the megatrends shaping work for example, ageing populations, climate pressure, AI, regulatory shifts, and why they demand a step change in how we decide, communicate, and execute. From there, we break down five paradox mindsets that help leaders hold tension without freezing: ruthlessly caring (making hard calls with real compassion), confidently humble (projecting credible direction while admitting what you don’t know), politically virtuous (coupling ethics with savvy influence), ambitiously appreciative (sustaining high standards with renewal and gratitude), and responsibly daring (protecting the enterprise while innovating with smart guardrails).

Amy shares practical ways to find the sweet spot for each paradox, not a bland compromise, but just enough of both poles to work under pressure. We talk psychological safety, radical candour, and how senior behaviour sets unwritten rules faster than any policy. You’ll hear how to diagnose overplayed and underplayed tendencies, why team diversity helps but doesn’t replace personal growth, and how to start with small, targeted habits that compound into culture change. Whether you lead a regulated function, a fast-scaling team, or a complex portfolio, you’ll come away with a sharper language for trade-offs and a toolkit for better decisions.

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Resilience emerges from the most unthinkable circumstances in this powerful conversation with Figen Murray OBE, whose son Martyn was killed in the 2017 Manchester Arena bombing. What follows is an extraordinary story of transformation through grief, forgiveness, and purpose-driven advocacy.

Figen shares the raw reality of how her life changed in "the split second it took for a suicide bomber to detonate a bomb" - not just losing her son, but also her identity as a psychotherapist. With disarming honesty, she describes her initial "zombie-like state" and the profound shift in her worldview that made it impossible to continue her therapeutic practice.

The conversation takes a remarkable turn when Figen reveals her decision to publicly forgive the bomber just weeks after the attack. Despite facing intense criticism and online trolling, this act of forgiveness "cleansed my heart and soul" and aligned with her core values. Her powerful insight that "a sour mind creates a sour body" illuminates the physical and emotional toll of carrying hatred.

What truly distinguishes Figen's journey is how personal tragedy transformed into a legislative mission. After discovering alarming security gaps at venues 18 months post-attack, she launched a six-and-a-half-year campaign that culminated in Martin's Law - now requiring mandatory security measures at venues hosting 200+ people across the UK. Through governmental changes, pandemic disruptions, and political opposition, Figen found that "every knockback made me even more resilient, more determined and stronger."

Perhaps most moving is Figen's work with young people, having spoken to over 32,000 students about online dangers and the importance of values like kindness and compassion. When asked what motivates her tireless advocacy, her answer is heartbreakingly simple: "Having my son's ashes on a bookshelf at home is a really good motivator."

This conversation offers profound insights into human resilience, the healing power of purpose, and how even the darkest tragedy can catalyze positive change when approached with courage and compassion. Join us for this deeply moving exploration of how one woman's grief became a gift of safety for millions.

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Ever pushed yourself to work through illness or stayed late just to be present at work and be seen? Your brain might be paying a devastating price.

Presenteeism, means showing up physically but functioning below capacity due to illness, injury, or simply staying longer than necessary. This costs UK businesses a staggering £100 billion annually. Yet unlike absenteeism, it remains largely unmeasured and unaddressed in most organisations.

The neuroscience reveals why this matters so deeply. When we work while unwell, our brains operate in conflict, diverting precious cognitive resources to manage pain or stress before productive work even begins. The anterior cingulate cortex, which processes both physical and social pain, lights up when we fear letting colleagues down—driving us to show up when we shouldn't. Meanwhile, receiving praise for "pushing through" triggers dopamine rewards that reinforce this harmful pattern.

Most alarmingly, chronic presenteeism physically changes your brain. The hippocampus can actually shrink under prolonged stress, affecting memory and learning capacity. Neural connectivity in the prefrontal cortex weakens, reducing judgment, concentration, and emotional regulation. What many attribute to "just getting older" might actually be the cumulative effect of insufficient recovery.

The good news? Our brains possess remarkable neuroplasticity. By prioritising psychological safety, resilience training, and supportive policies, organisations can combat presenteeism while enhancing performance. Leaders play a crucial role by modelling healthy boundaries and creating cultures where wellbeing and productivity coexist rather than compete.

Ready to transform how you think about rest and recovery? Connect with us on LinkedIn or visit thecpo.co.uk to continue this vital conversation about creating workplaces where people truly thrive.

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