We're taking a short break over Christmas and New Year....but we have lots planned for 2026!

Have a listen to this short trailer to hear some of the topics we have coming up and a thank you message from us for all your support over the last six months.

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Ever wondered why your boss, your mentor, or your Gen Z colleague just doesn’t seem to “get” how you work? Or why feedback that fires up one generation can shut down another?

Chris and Lily sit down with Gabby Rosely - former competitive swimmer turned entrepreneur, corporate leader and now multigenerational teams expert - to unpack the real reasons behind generational friction at work.

Gabby has managed teams spanning Boomers to Gen Z while still in her twenties, and she’s here to share what actually helps us connect, communicate, and collaborate across age divides.

You’ll learn:

• The surprising historical forces that shaped each generation’s work style
• Why “Engage-Discuss” vs. “Command-Obey” is the key model to understanding generational differences
• How different generations view and want to receive feedback - and how to adapt when it’s not your style
• Whether gender plays a role in these workplace dynamics
• The story behind Gabby’s 77-year-old mentee - and her personal motto, “Say yes before you’re ready!”

Whether you’re managing, mentoring, or just trying to get along in a multigenerational team, listen in and you’ll discover how to bridge the gap - and build a workplace where every generation thrives.

Hit play now and decode the generations with us.

3.10 Intro to Gabby

4.20 Gabby’s story

6.53 Historical influences shaping each generation (7.33 Boomers; 9.13 Gen X; 12.04 Millennials; 13.55 Gen Z)

12.34 Engage-Discuss vs Command-Obey

15.49 How the generations connect and motivate people at work (16.12 Boomers; 17.20 Gen X; 19.45 Millennials; 20.40 Gen Z)

21.18 Different generational views on feedback

23.06 How to avoid getting it wrong with other generations

27.27 Is there a gendered element to these challenges?

32.03 How each generation wants to receive feedback (32.15 Gen Z; 32.54 Millennials; 33.16 Gen X; 33.56 Boomers)

34.30 How to respond if feedback doesn’t meet your preferences

36.08 Gabby’s 77-year-old mentee

38.55 Gabby’s motto - “Say yes before you’re ready!”

41.26 Walking away and moving to Costa Rica

46.48 Gabby’s programs and how you can connect to learn more

49.00 Our key takeaways

Connect with Gabby Rosely:

https://www.gabbyrosely.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabbyrosely/

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Ever caught yourself thinking, “Maybe I should cut back” or “Am I drinking too much?” If so, this episode is for you.

We sit down with Steve Kirchell, Alcohol-Free Performance Coach, to talk about what it really means to be Sober Curious - and why going alcohol-free might be easier than you think.

Steve shares his personal journey to becoming alcohol-free, the subtle warning signs your drinking might be becoming problematic, and the number-one reason people stay stuck on the fence. We explore how alcohol affects your brain, body, and behaviour - and how to build confidence in social situations without it.

You’ll learn:

• How to handle social pressure and challenge friends who push you to drink
• Whether moderation ever really works, or if it’s all-or-nothing
• The 'Joy of Missing Out' instead of ‘Fear of Missing Out’ and how to enjoy life alcohol-free
• How long alcohol stays in your system and what it’s doing to you
• Practical advice for navigating the Christmas Party season with confidence
  
  

Whether you’re curious about cutting back, questioning your habits, or ready to quit completely, listen in and discover how to redefine fun, confidence, and connection without the glass in hand.

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0.57 Chris and Lily’s thoughts on going alcohol-free

2.40 Steve’s journey to an alcohol-free lifestyle

5.50 Gen Z’s typical experience of drinking escalating

6.24 The warning signs that your drinking is becoming problematic

8.44 The stages of people drinking on a night out

9.33 Has social media made Gen Z more cautious about excessive drinking?

12.00 Will your friends support you?

12.54 Sober curious? Is it all-or-nothing or can you drink in moderation?

14.36 How long it takes for alcohol to leave your system

15.13 The effects of repeated alcohol consumption on your brain and body

18.50 How drinking gets normalised as you get older

19.19 How to get confident you can break ingrained habits

21.08 How to challenge a friend who might pressure you to keep drinking

21.58 The ‘Joy of Missing Out’

24.00 Considering alcohol-free? How to get over feeling alcohol is essential to loosening you up and making you feel more confident

25.50 The time we all had fun without alcohol

28.53 How going alcohol-free might be easier than you think

30.32 How Steve’s life is different now since stopping drinking

32.00 Other signs that you might want to reconsider your relationship with alcohol

33.40 How to find out more about Steve’s Alcohol-Free Blueprint

34.15 How Steve’s 1:1 support works

36.27 Advice for handling the Christmas Party season

Connect with Steve Kirchell:

https://alcoholfreeblueprint.info/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-kirchell-8951a73/

https://www.instagram.com/steve_kirchell_coaching/

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“Why can’t I just get on with the things I keep putting off?” If that sounds familiar, this episode is for you.

Gen X dad and Gen Z daughter Chris and Lily team up with productivity coach Wilson Obeneme to break down why we procrastinate, how it derails our focus, and what we can do to take action sooner.

Wilson shares surprising stats about procrastination, explores its root causes, and reveals the top three blockers that stop us tackling the tasks that matter most. We also dig into the hidden costs of delaying and how to avoid them.

You’ll learn:

• Two practical approaches to kick-start tasks you’ve been avoiding
• How perfectionism and “time-blindness” (ignoring deadlines) trap us - and how to beat them
• Three actionable steps to overcome procrastination using accountability
• The single morning micro-habit that can transform your productivity
  
  

Whether you’re struggling with study deadlines or drowning in a never-ending to-do list at work, listen in and you’ll discover simple tools to beat procrastination.

Even if the habit feels deeply ingrained, you can shift from “I’ll do it later” to “I'm done now.”

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1.12 Chris & Lily’s procrastination tendencies

2.20 Introduction to Wilson

3.25 Wilson’s early experience of becoming hyper-productive

5.58 Is procrastination something that happens, a habit or part of your identity?

7.40 Stats on procrastination

11.04 Causes of procrastination and different types

12.05 Three key reasons that stop people doing what they want

15.18 How to get started with tasks you’re putting off

19.40 How to overcome procrastination due to perfectionism and time blindness

22.55 The 8-8-8 rule and the work-rest cycle

25.05 Three additional steps to overcome procrastination using accountability

28.50 The hidden costs of procrastination

30.18 Micro-habits to beat procrastination

33.48 How to connect with Wilson

35.30 Our takeaways

Connect with Wilson Obeneme:

Take the 3-minute productivity quiz:

https://quiz.thegrowthplug.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilsonobeneme/

https://www.instagram.com/thegrowthplug_/

https://www.youtube.com/@thegrowthplug_podcast

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We spend time at work, think about work, talk about work and then come home and watch TV shows about work!

Would you love to message ‘Urgent exit required’ to get out of boring meetings?

Would you sever your work self from your self outside work?

Could you work in Carmy’s kitchen from ‘The Bear’?

We talk about what we can learn from the portrayals of different workplaces in our favourite TV shows.

You’ll learn:

• How Chris learned to launder money from a TV show
• Which show Lily thinks is the offspring of a workplace drama and a Black Mirror episode
• Why Lily would want to have a failing business just so Nathan Fielder could visit
• How Ted Lasso formed a new Perkins family Christmas tradition

Whether you could see yourself working in Suits, Succession or Schitt’s Creek, join us for this episode to hear about how we’ve actually applied some things from TV shows at our work and what these shows have taught us about the workplace.

If you love a show we haven’t discussed below, get in touch and let us know as we might revisit this topic in a future episode….

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1.10 Lily’s top TV shows

1.47 Chris’ top TV shows

2.40 The Office (UK)

3.26 THe Office (US)

4.15 Mad Men

5.26 Line of Duty

6.50 Brooklyn Nine-Nine

7.25 Severance

9.48 Parks & Recreation

10.36 The Bear

13.15 Schitt’s Creek

15.03 Ozark

17.30 Nathan for You

19.37 The Curse

20.25 Suits

21.33 Succession

22.26 Ted Lasso

24.15 What does all this mean for us?

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Is your social circle shrinking? Learn the rules of making and keeping friends, no matter your age.

Why is it so much harder to make new friends after school? From the playground to the workplace, the rules of friendship change drastically. In this Ultimate Guide, Chris and Lily break down the lifespan of your social circle.

We share our stories about those childhood BFFs and dive into the tough adult realities: different roles in a friendship group, what you risk ‘borrowing’ friends from your partner and the impact social media and AI is having on really connecting with your friends.

You’ll learn:

• How and why our friendships change as we get older
• Gender differences in friendships
• Why it’s nearly impossible to maintain more than 150 relationships in total
• Causes of loneliness
• How to manage friendship breakups
• How to get better at making and keeping friendships as an adult

If you've ever felt the pang of loneliness or wondered how to build a stronger crew, this episode is for you.

Whether you’re Gen X trying to juggle your friendships and your partner’s, or Gen Z figuring out social media's impact, listen in to transform your social circles and get better at the art of being a friend.

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1.34 Lily and Chris’ best friends
5.13 Defining friendship
6.37 Can you be friends with someone you’ve never met?
9.10 Loneliness limbo
10.40 Earliest friendships
15.48 Gender differences in friendships
21.15 Social media’s impact on friendships
23.30 Dunbar’s number explained (why you can only handle about 150 social relationships)
25.56 Roles in a female friendship group
29.40 Roles in a male friendship group (spoiler: not as many!)
30.45 Are your friendships ‘side-by-side’ or ‘face-to-face’?
34.00 The risks of ‘borrowed’ friends
36.19 Ways to overcome loneliness
37.53 Modern solutions to creating new friendships
40.55 Friendship breakups
42.42 How to get better at making friends and keeping friends

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Did you know you experience some kind of transition in life about every 18 months? Every now and then, we experience a major change that threatens to totally derail us. It can seem overwhelming, but there’s a practical toolkit you can use to help you get through it.

We all make plans and expect our lives to follow the pattern we have in mind. Life, unfortunately, has other ideas. Typically, we experience 3-5 major life transitions in adulthood. Some we instigate, others seem to come out of nowhere.

In this episode, Chris and Lily discuss their own life transitions and some different ways to approach them. Drawing on research into what works when facing one of these big ‘lifequakes’, they discuss eight steps you can take to make sense of the upheaval.

You’ll learn:

• Why a transition needs to start with an ending
• What we can do to develop the right mindset for dealing with setbacks
• Why you need to shed your old self to move on
• How getting creative can be exactly what you need at rock bottom
• How to tell the story of the new you

Whatever you have to deal with, the tools and approaches we discuss in this episode will help you get through it a little more easily.

Hit play now!

Bruce Feiler's TED talk:

https://www.ted.com/talks/bruce_feiler_the_secret_to_mastering_life_s_biggest_transitions

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Are you preparing for a job interview for your first ‘proper’ job, or getting back into the job market after not having interviewed for a while?

You need to listen to this episode. While some fundamentals of the interview remain the same, AI, online interviews and what to do and say now have changed.

We break down what the different types of interview need to achieve from the recruiter’s perspective, so you know how to approach them with confidence. You’ll be better prepared for what to expect and more likely to progress to the next stage.

We cover tips on everything from how to make a strong first impression to the best kind of questions you can ask the interviewer.

You’ll learn:

• The most common interview formats and how to prepare for them
• Where people fall down with competency-based questions
• Interview etiquette for in-person and remote interviews
• The most common mistake hiring managers think candidates make
• What AI can now monitor in your interview and what it does with that info

So if you’ve got an interview coming up and you want to understand what the person the other side of the desk needs to get from you to move you to the next stage….

Hit play now!

0.54 Lily’s interview track record

3.00 Chris’ big interview mishap

4.40 Gen Z’s worries and uncertainties about interviews

5.20 Gen X’s worries and uncertainties about interviews

6.15 Challenges in the job market right now

7.40 The most common interview formats

10.40 The phone screen - what it is and isn’t

13.38 First hiring manager interview - what they’re looking for

14.45 How to prepare for the initial questions

16.03 How to prepare for competency-based questions

18.24 Where people fall down with competency-based questions

20.08 What to do when you don’t have any relevant experience

22.30 Cultural fit interviews

24.24 Interview etiquette for in-person interviews and the ‘Horns & Halo effect’

26.34 The most common mistake hiring managers think candidates make

28.00 How to make a strong first impression

30.50 Etiquette for online interviews

32.00 What AI can monitor in your interview and what it can do with that info

33.20 How to prepare for a video interview

34.18 The best kind of questions to ask the interviewer

37.10 How to make a strong last impression

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