Lauren and Lacey kick off Serial Killer September with a look into one of the most notorious names in true crime, Ted Bundy. They revisit his cross-country crimes, his shocking prison escapes, and the troubling way his appearance and charm shaped public perception and even courtroom treatment. Along the way, they explore the legal angles: what it meant for Bundy to represent himself, how attorney–client privilege works even in extreme cases, and why fair trials matter even for the worst offenders.

The conversation also raises questions about whether Bundy could have operated as long in today’s world of DNA evidence and interstate cooperation, and why the public spectacle of his execution still lingers in cultural memory. What do you think?

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Lauren and Lacey kick off their brand-new Serial Killer September series by discussing how investigations into serial crimes have changed over the decades. From the days when police departments rarely shared information across state lines to today’s use of CODIS, DNA databases, and even familial DNA through ancestry websites, the tools for catching killers look dramatically different.

The conversation explores both the promise and pitfalls of DNA evidence, how it has freed the innocent, convicted the guilty, and in some cases raised concerns about privacy, contamination, and misuse. They also dig into the psychological side of serial killers, comparing public perceptions of “likable” figures like Ted Bundy to the disturbing patterns seen in cases such as Pee Wee Gaskins, John Wayne Gacy, and South Carolina’s Todd Kohlhepp.

The hosts tackle the differences between mass murderers and serial killers, the debate over whether genetics could ever play a role in sentencing, and how cases like the Golden State Killer changed the game with new science. To wrap things up on a lighter note, Lauren and Lacey share their thoughts on Cardi B’s hilarious courtroom moments and what they reveal about how celebrity clients are treated differently on the stand.

This episode sets the stage for a month-long dive into infamous serial killers.

Next up: Ted Bundy.

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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with legal insight. After a quick story about Lacey’s trip to Atlanta to see basketball star A’ja Wilson, they discuss two trending topics: the Menendez brothers’ parole hearings and Netflix’s new Biggest Loser documentary.

Lauren explains why both Eric and Lyle Menendez were denied parole, citing contraband cell phones and questions about remorse. The hosts explore how prison cell phones have fueled nationwide scams and how that plays into parole decisions, while also asking whether the brothers still pose a real threat to society.

They then shift to the Biggest Loser documentary, highlighting troubling contracts that pressured contestants to waive legal rights and exposing unsafe health practices that put entertainment above wellbeing. Lauren and Lacey question whether such contracts should be enforceable and imagine how a healthier, more responsible version of the show could work today.

Next Up: Serial Killer September and a paranormal lineup for October! It's going to be a fun fall with The Lawmas!

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