In this episode of The Underlay, Matt sits down with Clever Choice Flooring Queensland Sales Manager Greg Harvey for a deep dive into one of the most important categories in hard flooring, timber. Recorded in the festive “Christmas studio”, this conversation strips away myths, misconceptions, and outdated thinking around timber floors, replacing them with real-world insight, practical advice, and honest industry experience.

Greg walks through Clever Choice Flooring's newly refreshed timber offering, breaking down the three new ranges, Beauty, Meadows, and Pure, and explaining exactly where each sits in the market. From premium clean-grade boards to rustic, high-feature options and accessible entry-level timbers, the discussion highlights how Clever Choice has closed key gaps in the market without compromising on quality, authenticity or performance.

The episode also tackles the topics that truly matter on the showroom floor: livability, durability, repairability and long-term value. Matt and Greg unpack why timber is far more practical than many consumers believe, how modern UV coatings and finishes have improved wear resistance, and why timber remains one of the most sustainable and future-proof flooring options available.

Installation methods, floating versus direct stick, and the critical role of subfloor preparation are front and centre, reinforcing why education and correct system selection are just as important as the product itself. The conversation concludes with a look ahead to Clever Choice Flooring's 2026 roadmap, including product development, training, and where the broader flooring market is heading.

This is a must-listen episode for retailers, installers and anyone serious about selling timber floors the right way.

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In this special episode of The Underlay, Matt and Michael bring listeners an on-the-ground snapshot from one of the biggest days on the flooring industry calendar, the ATFA Flooring Industry Expo at the Melbourne Showgrounds. Positioned right in the heart of the action, The Underlay team were impossible to miss, attracting a steady stream of installers, suppliers, innovators, and long-standing industry leaders throughout the day.

This episode features the best conversations from the floor, beginning with ATFA CEO Phil Buckley, who shares his excitement about the event’s overwhelming turnout, the importance of national collaboration, and why training and craftsmanship will define the future. From there, Matt and Michael dive into the innovations, challenges and opportunities shaping the industry through interviews with Nathan from Belgotex, Brent from RLA Polymers, Josh from Marques Flooring, and Dale from Quickstep.

Across every conversation, a clear theme emerges. Training, education and collective responsibility are the backbone of a sustainable and successful flooring industry. From unlocking next-generation timber systems to improving subfloor preparation to expanding installer career pathways, every guest reinforces that knowledge is power, and the industry thrives when everyone lifts together.

This episode captures the energy, community spirit and shared passion that made the ATFA Expo such a standout event. Part Two arrives in the new year, but for now, enjoy the people, the ideas and the momentum shaping the future of flooring in Australia.

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In this episode of The Underlay, Matt and Michael head to Penrith to sit down with one of the most recognisable personalities in the flooring game, Micko from Dream Flooring. What starts as a conversation about flooring quickly becomes an insight into creativity, community, and why being different is the smartest move you can make in a crowded industry.

With more than 20 years on the tools, Mikko has done it all from timber to hybrid and everything in between. But it is his shift into fun, chaotic, attention-grabbing social media that has completely transformed his business. Clearing out his showroom, building a lounge-style space, and teaming up with Amy, the mastermind behind many of his wild ideas, Dream Flooring has become one of the most talked-about shops in Western Sydney.

From buckets of water thrown across the showroom to inflatable pool dives to Eric attacking him with a handbag, every video is built on one thing: creating attention without taking yourself too seriously. And as Micko explains, the strategy is working far better than he ever expected. Penrith locals now walk into the shop asking to meet him, fans yell out as they pass by, and Panthers supporters come in purely because they want to support "that funny bloke from Dream Flooring.”

But behind the laughter is real expertise. With decades of installation experience, Micko discusses floor prep, hybrid evolution, product trends, why former installers make the best salespeople, and the balance between affordability and doing the job right. His story proves that flooring may be boring to the masses, but it never has to be boring to sell.

This one is hilarious, honest, and a cracking look at how passion, personality, and hard work can redefine a local business.

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The Underlay Podcast continues its Sydney road trip with a special pop-up episode recorded inside the bustling GMK Logistics headquarters. Hosts Matt and Michael sit down with Sarah Halpin, CEO of GMK Logistics, and Anthony Minuto, NSW State Manager and long-time member of the GMK family, for a lively and insightful conversation about people, culture, and the power of connection in the flooring industry.

What begins as a spontaneous visit evolves into a fascinating glimpse behind the scenes of one of Australia's most respected logistics providers. GMK's operation spans more than 100,000 square metres of warehousing nationwide, yet it still runs on the same family values and personal relationships that built the business more than 60 years ago.

Sarah shares her journey from accountant to CEO, a career built on curiosity, resilience, and empathy and explains how she continues to champion a "people-first" culture that values every driver, warehouse team member, and client equally. Anthony, who began his GMK journey more than two decades ago, offers an insider’s perspective on how dedication, consistency, and a passion for the industry have shaped both his career and GMK's reputation for reliability.

The discussion explores the importance of communication, innovation, and trust in logistics, from custom-built trucks designed specifically for flooring products to drivers who know their customers by name. Together, Sarah and Anthony reveal why GMK Logistics is more than just a transport company; it's the backbone of Australia's flooring supply chain.

Of course, this is The Underlay, so there's plenty of humour too, from fluoro workwear fashion to ultra-marathon running and even a spirited debate about roll-on versus spray deodorant.

It's an episode that celebrates commitment, culture, and community, the very traits that keep the flooring industry moving forward.

Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your pods.

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In this episode of The Underlay Podcast, hosts Matt White and Michael Roberts sit down with Geoff Weir, Hard Flooring Category Manager at Carpet Court, to explore his fascinating journey through the flooring industry, from starting out knowing nothing about flooring to becoming one of the most respected voices in the business.

Geoff shares how he first entered the industry nearly a decade ago, guided by a friend who saw his potential long before he did. From humble beginnings as a sales rep to national leadership roles, Geoff discusses the value of curiosity, connection, and consistency, answering your phone, showing up, and always being honest with your customers. It’s simple advice, but as Geoff explains, it’s what sets great reps apart in an industry built on trust and relationships.

The conversation dives deep into the evolving world of hard flooring. Geoff reflects on major market shifts, including the rise of hybrid flooring and the resurgence of laminates, and how technology continues to reshape what’s possible in design and performance. He also opens up about the importance of aligning values between suppliers and retailers, highlighting the growing collaboration between Carpet Court and Clever Choice Flooring.

In a heartfelt moment, Geoff shares his personal journey through a year of immense challenges, including becoming a father again and facing a brain cancer diagnosis, offering a powerful reminder about perspective, family, and what truly matters beyond the showroom.

From industry insights to life lessons, this episode delivers an honest, inspiring, and deeply human look at what drives the people behind Australia’s flooring industry.

The Underlay Podcast – where the stories beneath the surface inspire what’s next.

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In this episode of The Underlay Podcast, hosts Matt and Michael sit down with Phil Buckley, the newly appointed CEO of the Australian Timber Flooring Association (ATFA), for an open and insightful conversation about the future of the flooring industry.

Phil's journey is anything but typical. Growing up in Sydney, he watched his mother build one of the city's largest timber flooring companies from scratch, spent his teenage weekends on the tools, and then pivoted into education before returning to flooring to build a successful commercial and retail operation. Now, just five weeks into his role leading ATFA, Phil shares how a lifetime of hands-on experience, from laying floors to running businesses and conducting more than 600 flooring inspections, shapes his vision for the association.

The conversation delves into the significant industry challenges and opportunities currently facing the sector. Phil explains the impact of the recently announced Great Northern Koala Park, which has halted access to crucial resources, such as blackbutt timber. He talks candidly about the human cost of policy changes on small businesses, mills, and communities, and why understanding the people behind the industry matters as much as protecting the environment.

Education and training are at the forefront of Phil's strategy. He outlines ATFA's ambitious plans to upskill everyone in the supply chain – from retailers and sales teams who need better product fit-for-purpose knowledge, to installers, inspectors, and warranty managers who must communicate technical insights clearly to consumers. The episode also explores how ATFA is making training more accessible through online modules, face-to-face workshops, and purpose-built facilities across Australia.

Phil doesn't shy away from the complexities of change – whether it's new regulations, global timber supply pressures, or technology like AI reshaping the manufacturing and retail sectors. But his message is clear: progress shouldn't leave people behind.

Whether you're a retailer, installer, manufacturer, or just passionate about the flooring industry, this episode offers a valuable perspective on where the sector is headed and how ATFA plans to lead with innovation, education, and support for its people.

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This special episode of The Underlay Podcast takes listeners behind the scenes of Project Miriah, a groundbreaking collaboration between Clever Choice Flooring, RLA Polymers, and the FCIA.

Over five intensive days in August 2025, the team came together to deliver a complete flooring installation inside a two-storey townhouse. From subfloor preparation to the final installation, the project showcased not only Clever Choice's premium vinyl and hybrid products but also the expertise of RLA's adhesives and compounds, and the hands-on involvement of FCIA apprentices.

Hosts Matt White and Michael Roberts guide us through the journey, sharing insights from key stakeholders. Listeners hear directly from Fiona of the FCIA about the importance of apprenticeships, the pathways into flooring, and the value of exposing trainees to new products and techniques. Apprentices Carli, Jarra, and Max share their nerves, excitement, and determination as they tackle vinyl, hybrid flooring, and a staircase installation, an essential milestone in their training.

RLA's Matt and Safi open up about subfloor prep, levelling, and the science behind their adhesives, while FCIA trainer Ryan provides expert commentary on what it takes to deliver a flawless installation. Store owners Simon and Fiona from Carpet Court Coffs Harbour also weigh in, highlighting the vital role apprentices play in the future of the trade.

Project Miriah wasn't just about flooring; it was about education, collaboration, and industry growth. With hours of content filmed, including a 38-step Clever Choice installation guide, this initiative sets a new benchmark for training and industry storytelling.

From the technical precision of subfloor preparation to the excitement of apprentices completing real-world modules on site, this episode captures the heart of an industry committed to building skills and supporting its next generation. Whether you're a flooring professional, a business owner, or simply curious about the craft behind the floors beneath your feet, this episode is packed with insights, laughs, and lessons.

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In this special episode of The Underlay, hosts Matt and Michael are joined by Michael and Matt from RLA Polymers and Fiona from the FCIA to take listeners behind the scenes of Project Miriah, a groundbreaking flooring installation project that's raising the bar for education, collaboration, and craftsmanship in the industry.

Recorded after two intense days on site, this conversation offers a candid look at the planning and teamwork that's gone into transforming a two-storey townhouse, from subfloor prep to vinyl and hybrid installation, including a challenging staircase. What began as a bold idea to create content around best practices has evolved into a large-scale industry showcase, featuring detailed demonstrations, technical expertise, and a focus on training the next generation of installers.

The team shares their experiences and insights from the project, discussing everything from RLA's hands-on product demonstrations and Clever Choice's emphasis on user-friendly solutions to the FCIA's commitment to apprentices and skills development. Listeners will hear how every step, from moisture testing to levelling, adhesives, and installation, has been carefully documented to create an invaluable resource for the flooring community.

Beyond the technical details, this episode highlights the power of collaboration between manufacturers, suppliers, and industry associations. Together, these stakeholders are working to raise standards, promote education, and ensure the flooring trade continues to thrive.

Whether you're an installer, retailer, manufacturer, or simply passionate about the future of flooring, this behind-the-scenes look at Project Miriah demonstrates what's possible when expertise, creativity, and teamwork come together. Tune in for practical insights, inspiring stories, and a glimpse at an ambitious project that could shape the industry's future.

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