Dr. Chelom Leavitt is an amazing person with a fascinating background, from attending law school at BYU to later earning a Ph.D. in Human Development and Family Studies from Penn State. She now works as an associate professor at BYU where she studies healthy sexuality in committed relationships, including sexuality and mindfulness, and how women experience and contribute to sex differently than men. Sounds interesting? Well, I recorded this a year or two ago and felt it was a good time to re-release it again. You won't hear this type of conversation in the Church often, but it is so important! Listen in.

A month ago, the Salt Lake Tribune published apiece I wrote that they titled “Voices: In a place like Utah, ‘moral credits’ can’t make up for how we treat women.” The subtitle was “Maybe some of the conditions that create women’s conditions are unconscious — but they could beheightened in religious cultures.” In this episode, I read this for you as it is an interesting concept to think about. I do think it is broader than the title that the Tribune provided, so, I’ve titled this podcast differently as you'll see. Listen in!

RESOURCES:
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2025/09/26/voices-moral-credits-cant-make-up/

In this episode, I wrestle with the topic of people leaving the church for a variety of reasons and how I've evolved in my thinking about it. I also talk about why I choose to stay, and the "wrestle" many of us have with our minds and hearts in this space. This includes a conscious decision to make continuous efforts to keep our heart soft. I hope it is helpful for those who want to do the same.