This conversation pulls back the curtain on why so many AAPI women in ministry still feel unseen—and how ISAAC’s PastoraLab is changing that reality nationwide. Dr. Young Lee Hertig and Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon share 15+ years of stories, breakthroughs, and the powerful moments of belonging that have shaped a new generation of AAPI women faith leaders.

As Giving Tuesday approaches on December 2nd, they invite listeners into a bold vision: a future where Asian American Christian voices are recognized, resourced, and amplified. If you care about representation, church innovation, or lifting up women who have long been sidelined, this episode will challenge you, inspire you, and call you into the work.

Support PastoraLab: https://givebutter.com/supportpastoralab

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Co-Hosts: Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon & Young Lee Hertig

Sound Producer: Joana Choi

Music: Paul Choi

ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Pastor Alex Choi shares hard-won wisdom from planting churches in Los Angeles and serving in Portland, revealing how authentic storytelling and deep listening transformed his ministry. He offers practical guidance on leadership transitions and opens up about leaving behind white-centric theological frameworks and the evangelical "posture-position gap" that hurt people on the back end rather than the front.

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Co-Hosts: Cris Otonari & Young Lee Hertig

Sound Producer: Joana Choi

Music: Paul Choi

ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach', host Cris Otonari speaks with Reverend Sally Lee about her experiences as a Chinese American faith leader. They discuss the importance of cultural identity in church leadership, the innovative Dinner Church Collective, and the significance of being present in ministry. Sally emphasizes the need for community, the ministry of presence, and centering Jesus in church planting to create thriving congregations.

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Co-Host: Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.