This conversation pulls back the curtain on why so many AAPI women in ministry still feel unseen—and how ISAAC’s PastoraLab is changing that reality nationwide. Dr. Young Lee Hertig and Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon share 15+ years of stories, breakthroughs, and the powerful moments of belonging that have shaped a new generation of AAPI women faith leaders.

As Giving Tuesday approaches on December 2nd, they invite listeners into a bold vision: a future where Asian American Christian voices are recognized, resourced, and amplified. If you care about representation, church innovation, or lifting up women who have long been sidelined, this episode will challenge you, inspire you, and call you into the work.

Support PastoraLab: https://givebutter.com/supportpastoralab

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Co-Hosts: Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon & Young Lee Hertig

Sound Producer: Joana Choi

Music: Paul Choi

ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Pastor Alex Choi shares hard-won wisdom from planting churches in Los Angeles and serving in Portland, revealing how authentic storytelling and deep listening transformed his ministry. He offers practical guidance on leadership transitions and opens up about leaving behind white-centric theological frameworks and the evangelical "posture-position gap" that hurt people on the back end rather than the front.

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Co-Hosts: Cris Otonari & Young Lee Hertig

Sound Producer: Joana Choi

Music: Paul Choi

ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach', host Cris Otonari speaks with Reverend Sally Lee about her experiences as a Chinese American faith leader. They discuss the importance of cultural identity in church leadership, the innovative Dinner Church Collective, and the significance of being present in ministry. Sally emphasizes the need for community, the ministry of presence, and centering Jesus in church planting to create thriving congregations.

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Co-Host: Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of When Women Preach, we explore themes of empowerment for AAPI and Latina women in faith leadership, the emotional journey of academic achievement, and the importance of community and friendship in both personal and professional realms. Jennifer shares her experiences transitioning from pastoral ministry to academia, innovative teaching methods that foster intergenerational dialogue. The episode emphasizes the significance of building authentic relationships and the role of friendship in leadership, encouraging listeners to prioritize connection over competition.

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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of When Women Preach, Joyce Koo Dalrymple to discuss her upcoming book, Redeeming Eden. The conversation explores the often-overlooked narratives of women in the Bible, emphasizing their crucial roles in redemptive history. Joyce shares insights on how these women's stories can inspire faith leaders today, the importance of understanding gender in biblical contexts, and the need for grace and self-love in the journey of faith. The discussion also highlights the significance of diverse voices in interpreting scripture and the role of male allies in promoting gender equality within the church.

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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Joana Choi
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach,' hosts Cris Otonari and Young Lee Hertig engage with Dr. Kay Higuera-Smith, who discusses her extensive research on Mary of Nazareth. The conversation explores the importance of a gynocentric interpretive lens in biblical hermeneutics, the active role of women in the Bible, and the implications of these insights for modern women leaders in faith communities. Dr. Higuera-Smith emphasizes the need to recognize the agency of women in scripture and challenges traditional patriarchal interpretations, advocating for a more inclusive understanding of biblical narratives.

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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari

Sound Producer: Joana Choi

Music: Paul Choi

ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach,' we engage with Rev. Ajung Sojwal, exploring her transformative journey in faith leadership. Rev. Sojwal shares her experiences in the Episcopal Church, navigating identity, and the importance of peer communities in sustaining faith leaders. The conversation highlights the challenges of being a woman of color in a predominantly white church, the significance of hospitality, and the ongoing journey of creating spaces for belonging and connection within the church community.
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Resources: https://www.isaacweb.org/post/faith-outside-the-lines

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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests.

In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Young & Cris engage with Russell Jeung, a sociologist and long-time advocate for the AAPI community. The conversation explores barriers to leadership, the need for institutional support, and the impact of toxic leadership styles. They emphasize the necessity of systemic change for gender equity and the importance of overcoming scarcity mentality within the community.
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Give to MayforHer: https://givebutter.com/supportpastoralab

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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org

Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests.