Ever feel like you’re doing all the “right” things at work or in your relationships… and still feel off?

In this episode, Jess & Claude sit down with Eric Gee — educator, personality typologist, and author of The Power of Personality — to talk about why the real unlock isn’t more skills, it’s knowing who you are and what you truly value.

Eric has personality-typed over 50,000 people and created the Youtopia 16 framework, a values-based approach to personality that helps you stop fighting your nature and start using it. In this conversation, you’ll hear how your type shapes the way you work, lead, love, and even choose your work besties.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why school and “adulting” push one value system on everyone
• The difference between people who value safety & security vs excitement vs information
• Why the “rule-followers” and the “firefighters” actually need each other (at work and at home)
• How personality is not about what you’re good at, but what you’re drawn to
• Why siblings raised in the same family can have wildly different personalities and paths
• How leaders with different personalities (think Elon Musk vs a classic principal-type) show up so differently at work
• Concrete vs abstract communicators — and why your coworkers sometimes feel like aliens
• One simple shift you can make this week to show up more like yourself instead of who you think you’re “supposed” to be

Meet Eric Gee

Eric Gee is the founder of an education company focused on individualized growth, the creator of the Youtopia 16 personality framework, and author of The Power of Personality. He’s typed tens of thousands of people and spent over two decades helping teachers, teams, and leaders understand values-based personality so they can collaborate better and grow into the healthiest version of themselves.

Take the Youtopia 16 test & find Eric

🔹 Take the quiz: projectyoutopia.com or youtopiaproject.com
🔹 Book: The Power of Personality (available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and most major booksellers)

Try this Work Bestie Challenge 💎

1. Take the Youtopia 16 assessment this week.
2. Do one thing that’s aligned with your personality type — not something you “should” do.
3. Share it with your work bestie and compare how your values show up differently at work.

Tag us and let us know what you find out!

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You took the weekend off, but somehow still woke up tired on Monday. Why? This week, Work Besties Who Podcast welcomes Anna Hindell — a Gestalt Psychotherapist and Certified Iyengar Yoga Teacher — who’s redefining how we think about burnout, stress, and recovery.

Anna shares how true healing begins by reconnecting with your body, not just your thoughts. Together, we unpack why high achievers stay stuck in burnout cycles, how to recognize the early signs, and a simple one-minute grounding practice you can start using today.

Listen if you’ve ever:
💎 Felt exhausted even after “resting”
💎 Said “I’m fine” when you weren’t
💎 Needed a reminder to slow down — without guilt

🕒 Timestamps / Chapters

00:00 – Intro | Why burnout doesn’t go away with time off
02:00 – Anna’s path from movement to mind-body therapy
05:00 – What Gestalt Therapy actually means (“making the whole whole”)
09:00 – The link between your physical body and emotional burnout
12:00 – When over-functioning turns into avoidance
15:00 – How community and friendship help heal stress
19:00 – Micro-moments that reset your nervous system
24:00 – Anna’s one-minute body scan for calm
27:00 – Jess & Claude’s reflections and takeaways

🧘 Key Takeaways

• Burnout isn’t solved by more rest — it’s solved by awareness.
• Your body often notices stress before your brain admits it.
• Connection (to self and to others) is medicine.
• A minute of breathing with awareness can change your entire day.

👤 Guest: Anna Hindell

Anna is a Gestalt Psychotherapist and Certified Iyengar Yoga Teacher based in New York City, helping adults, teens, and couples reconnect to themselves through movement, mindfulness, and body awareness.

Website: www.annahindell.com
Instagram: @annahindellpsychotherapy
Facebook: Anna Hindell, LCSW-R, CIYT
LinkedIn: Anna Hindell, LCSW-R, CIYT

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Work Besties as a Support System

Having a work bestie isn’t just nice — it’s survival. In this episode, Jess and Claude unpack why workplace friendships aren’t fluff, they’re foundational to your mental health, motivation, and sanity.

They share how a true work bestie becomes your emotional armor — the person who helps you breathe through chaos, laugh through deadlines, and stay grounded when things get messy.

You’ll hear:
• The 3 ways work besties boost well-being — venting, validation, and accountability
• Real-life stories from Jess & Claude’s own friendship
• How to evolve your connection when your bestie becomes your boss
• Tips to build your own support circle at work

Because the secret to workplace well-being isn’t coffee or pizza parties — it’s connection.

🎧 Listen now and tag your emotional partner in crime.

💎 Your Supportive Work Besties, Jess & Claude

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