Ever feel like you’re doing all the “right” things at work or in your relationships… and still feel off?

In this episode, Jess & Claude sit down with Eric Gee — educator, personality typologist, and author of The Power of Personality — to talk about why the real unlock isn’t more skills, it’s knowing who you are and what you truly value.

Eric has personality-typed over 50,000 people and created the Youtopia 16 framework, a values-based approach to personality that helps you stop fighting your nature and start using it. In this conversation, you’ll hear how your type shapes the way you work, lead, love, and even choose your work besties.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why school and “adulting” push one value system on everyone
• The difference between people who value safety & security vs excitement vs information
• Why the “rule-followers” and the “firefighters” actually need each other (at work and at home)
• How personality is not about what you’re good at, but what you’re drawn to
• Why siblings raised in the same family can have wildly different personalities and paths
• How leaders with different personalities (think Elon Musk vs a classic principal-type) show up so differently at work
• Concrete vs abstract communicators — and why your coworkers sometimes feel like aliens
• One simple shift you can make this week to show up more like yourself instead of who you think you’re “supposed” to be

Meet Eric Gee

Eric Gee is the founder of an education company focused on individualized growth, the creator of the Youtopia 16 personality framework, and author of The Power of Personality. He’s typed tens of thousands of people and spent over two decades helping teachers, teams, and leaders understand values-based personality so they can collaborate better and grow into the healthiest version of themselves.

Take the Youtopia 16 test & find Eric

🔹 Take the quiz: projectyoutopia.com or youtopiaproject.com
🔹 Book: The Power of Personality (available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and most major booksellers)

Try this Work Bestie Challenge 💎

1. Take the Youtopia 16 assessment this week.
2. Do one thing that’s aligned with your personality type — not something you “should” do.
3. Share it with your work bestie and compare how your values show up differently at work.

Tag us and let us know what you find out!

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You took the weekend off, but somehow still woke up tired on Monday. Why? This week, Work Besties Who Podcast welcomes Anna Hindell — a Gestalt Psychotherapist and Certified Iyengar Yoga Teacher — who’s redefining how we think about burnout, stress, and recovery.

Anna shares how true healing begins by reconnecting with your body, not just your thoughts. Together, we unpack why high achievers stay stuck in burnout cycles, how to recognize the early signs, and a simple one-minute grounding practice you can start using today.

Listen if you’ve ever:
💎 Felt exhausted even after “resting”
💎 Said “I’m fine” when you weren’t
💎 Needed a reminder to slow down — without guilt

🕒 Timestamps / Chapters

00:00 – Intro | Why burnout doesn’t go away with time off
02:00 – Anna’s path from movement to mind-body therapy
05:00 – What Gestalt Therapy actually means (“making the whole whole”)
09:00 – The link between your physical body and emotional burnout
12:00 – When over-functioning turns into avoidance
15:00 – How community and friendship help heal stress
19:00 – Micro-moments that reset your nervous system
24:00 – Anna’s one-minute body scan for calm
27:00 – Jess & Claude’s reflections and takeaways

🧘 Key Takeaways

• Burnout isn’t solved by more rest — it’s solved by awareness.
• Your body often notices stress before your brain admits it.
• Connection (to self and to others) is medicine.
• A minute of breathing with awareness can change your entire day.

👤 Guest: Anna Hindell

Anna is a Gestalt Psychotherapist and Certified Iyengar Yoga Teacher based in New York City, helping adults, teens, and couples reconnect to themselves through movement, mindfulness, and body awareness.

Website: www.annahindell.com
Instagram: @annahindellpsychotherapy
Facebook: Anna Hindell, LCSW-R, CIYT
LinkedIn: Anna Hindell, LCSW-R, CIYT

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Work Besties as a Support System

Having a work bestie isn’t just nice — it’s survival. In this episode, Jess and Claude unpack why workplace friendships aren’t fluff, they’re foundational to your mental health, motivation, and sanity.

They share how a true work bestie becomes your emotional armor — the person who helps you breathe through chaos, laugh through deadlines, and stay grounded when things get messy.

You’ll hear:
• The 3 ways work besties boost well-being — venting, validation, and accountability
• Real-life stories from Jess & Claude’s own friendship
• How to evolve your connection when your bestie becomes your boss
• Tips to build your own support circle at work

Because the secret to workplace well-being isn’t coffee or pizza parties — it’s connection.

🎧 Listen now and tag your emotional partner in crime.

💎 Your Supportive Work Besties, Jess & Claude

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Ruby Vesely is the kind of leader you wish you had—and the one you can start becoming today.
In this conversation with Jess and Claude, Ruby—executive coach, HR strategist, and co-author of You, Me, We—shares how to build workplaces where people feel seen, safe, and supported.

She walks us through:

• The 10-second “What’s your number today?” check-in that transforms team culture
• The 5 practices of being an ally at work (generosity, compassion, vulnerability, candor, accountability)
• Why presence—not perfection—is the real leadership superpower
• How to model boundaries and self-care so your team believes you
• What it means to be your own work bestie

✨ Take the Free Ally Mindset Profile
Discover your natural strengths and growth areas across the 5 ally practices. Perfect for teams or personal reflection.
👉 Click here

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What does belonging at work actually look like—beyond posters and policies? Organizational culture expert Faith Clarke (engineer-turned-people-systems strategist) joins us to unpack “yes-yes” solutions, internal vs. external motivation, and how microcultures (5–8 person teams) can transform organizations. We talk listening as leadership, practicing—not preaching—values, and why work besties aren’t just emotional support humans…they’re co-creators of culture.

Top Takeaways

• Culture is practiced, not posted. Microcultures beat macroculture slogans.
• “Yes-Yes” solutions: bridge tensions so both needs are met.
• Internal > external motivation for sustainable behavior and performance.
• Belonging = shared care + protection. People stay and thrive when they feel looked after.
• Start small. Build skills interpersonally, then in small groups, then scale.
• Leaders model vulnerability. Listening with curiosity (not fixing) builds trust.
• 80/20 rule. A few changes in listening and co-creation drive most results.
• Work friendships fuel belonging and make hard work possible.

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High performance can come with hidden costs.

In this conversation, the Work Besties, Jess and Claude chat with therapist Laurel VanDerToorn, who explains why trauma and burnout can hit high achievers hard—and what real, sustainable recovery looks like. We dig into the early signs (brain fog, fatigue, cynicism), why “just take a vacation” misses the mark, and how small, repeatable behaviors compound into resilience. Laurel shares her four-layer approach—physical health → behavioral routines → deep relationships → values alignment—plus boundary-setting scripts, the Four D’s (Do, Date, Delegate, Delete), and how to protect your nervous system in 24/7 work cultures. If you’ve been feeling crispy, this one’s for you.

Key Takeaways

• High achievers face unique pressures and a heightened need for privacy.
• Vacations are a band-aid; sustainable recovery needs system-level changes.
• Catch the early signs: fatigue, brain fog, aches, rising cynicism.
• Start with small behaviors (sleep, nutrition, movement, phone hygiene).
• Physical health checks (labs, thyroid/iron) can rule out confounders.
• Relationships (yes, work besties) buffer burnout.
• Boundaries and delegation reduce overload.
• Align daily actions with personal values to lower burnout risk.
• Protect your nervous system with on-ramps/off-ramps to the workday.

Contact Laurel VanDer Toorn via her website

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What does it really mean to be an ally at work? And how can we build cultures where everyone feels seen, supported, and empowered?

In this episode of Work Besties Who Podcast, Jess & Claude sit down with Dr. Victoria Mattingly, a behavioral scientist, author, and inclusion strategist who helps organizations turn DEI from theory into daily practice.

Together, they unpack what true allyship looks like — not as a buzzword, but as an everyday commitment. From recognizing privilege to having brave conversations about equity, Dr. Mattingly breaks down how small, intentional actions can shift entire workplace cultures.

She also shares why work besties play a vital role in inclusion — creating safe spaces, amplifying each other’s voices, and modeling what real allyship looks like in action.

💡 What You’ll Learn:

• How allyship drives inclusion, diversity, and equity in the workplace
• The behavioral science behind why inclusion feels hard — and how to make it easier
• Simple, everyday actions that make a real difference
• Why uncomfortable conversations are essential for growth
• How leaders can embed DEI into decision-making and culture
• The powerful link between allyship, mental health, and belonging
• Why your work bestie might just be your greatest ally

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• Inclusion is a choice made in every interaction.
• Allyship is a practice — not a one-time act.
• DEI is good for people and good for business.
• Work besties help create the psychological safety needed for true inclusion.

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Do you ever feel like social media is running you instead of the other way around? 🎥✨

In this episode, Work Besties Jess & Claude sit down with Britney Crosson (Founder, Fun Love Media) and Megan Colwell (Art Director at Fun Love Media + artist behind Megan Creates Art) to explore how to make showing up online fun again—and sustainable.

What You’ll Hear:

• Their work bestie origin story (including a giant jar of olives 🫒)
• Why digital community > follower counts
• How to avoid burnout with Britney’s Focus / Fine / Force posting framework
• The two “gut-check” questions before you post: Would someone share this? & Do I think it’s funny?
• How Fun Love Media helps clients build camera confidence and authentic brand voices

Whether you’re a creator, entrepreneur, or just someone trying to post without pressure, this episode reminds us that social success isn’t about numbers—it’s about people, connection, and joy.

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