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  • E30 - Is AI Disrupting ALSPs? Axiom CSO Catherine Kemnitz

    E30 - Is AI Disrupting ALSPs? Axiom CSO Catherine Kemnitz
    Oct 16 2025
    In Episode 30 of 'Legally Disrupted,' Zach engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Catherine Kemnitz, Axiom's Chief Strategy Officer. They address a LinkedIn debate on how AI will disrupt both Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) and Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs). Katherine offers insights from her extensive legal industry experience, including her tenure at Axiom and Thomson Reuters, highlighting major transactions and strategic pivots influenced by technological advancements. In this episode:
    • Catherine Kemnitz's Career Journey
    • Axiom's Strategic Moves and Innovations
    • The Impact of AI on Legal Services
    • Generative AI and Legal Tech Evolution
    • AI Adoption in Legal Departments vs. Law Firms
    • Axiom's Approach to AI and Future Outlook
    Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Catherine - https://www.axiomlaw.com/about-us/our-team Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Catherine - https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinekemnitz
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    33 min
  • E29 - Why Firms Are Buying Niche AI, Centari Founder Kevin Walker

    E29 - Why Firms Are Buying Niche AI, Centari Founder Kevin Walker
    Oct 8 2025
    Zach sits down with Centari founder Kevin Walker to unpack the opportunities and obstacles of selling AI to law firms when it isn’t a generalized assistant like ChatGPT or Harvey. Kevin makes the case for why tackling highly specialized problems, such as Deal Intelligence, delivers unique, lasting value to firms. In this episode:
    • Understanding Centari's Vision
    • Unique Market Insights and Adoption
    • Challenges and Opportunities in Legal Tech
    • Building Trust with Law Firms
    • Future of Legal Practices
    • Fried Frank Partnership
    • Navigating Market Noise
    • First Principles and Differentiation
    • AI Adoption in Law Firms
    • Reddit Thread Controversy
    • Building a Strong Company Culture
    Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Kevin - https://www.centari.com/about-us Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Kevn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpwalker1, https://x.com/_kevinwalker?lang=en
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    49 min
  • E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm

    E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm
    Sep 14 2025
    Zach and Richard break down AI-first legal services, ALSPs, and the EUDIA announcement. Asking who really owns legal AI, whether ROI even matters, and how these new firms might rewrite the rules of the industry. In this episode:
    • Non-Lawyer Ownership of Law Firms
    • AI in Transactional Work
    • The Business Model of AI-First Law Firms
    • Measurable ROI in Legal Tech
    • The IKEA Catalog Scenario
    • AI-First Firms vs. Incumbents
    • Market Saturation and Future Predictions

    References:

    https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2025/09/03/eudia-opens-ai-augmented-law-firm-for-ma/

    Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Richard - tromansconsulting.com, artificiallawyer.com Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Richard - linkedin.com/in/artificiallawyer, https://x.com/ArtificialLawya
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    44 min
  • E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution

    E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution
    Aug 19 2025
    In this episode of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz introduces a new recurring segment called 'Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure' with Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer. They discuss the rapid evolution in the legal tech sphere, particularly focusing on big deals and announcements from legal AI companies like Harvey and Legora. The duo debates the impact of generative AI productivity platforms on the legal market, the notion of a 'land grab' as firms race to adopt AI, and the potential for AI to become universally adopted in legal workflows. They also touch on the pricing dynamics of legal tech and the challenges faced by legacy companies in incorporating AI. In this episode:
    • Summer Surge in Legal AI Deals
    • Generative AI Platforms for Lawyers
    • Market Share and Productivity Tools
    • Global Legal Market and Pricing Strategies
    • Emerging Competitors and Market Dynamics
    • The Battle for Legal AI Dominance
    • The Future of Legal Tech Giants: Mergers and Acquisitions
    • The Role of Investors in Legal Tech
    • The Importance of Specialization in Legal Tech
    • The Future of AI in Legal Tech: Assistants vs. Automators
    Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Richard - tromansconsulting.com, artificiallawyer.com Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Richard - linkedin.com/in/artificiallawyer, https://x.com/ArtificialLawya
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    37 min
  • E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy

    E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy
    Aug 15 2025
    In episode 26 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz brings us a live conversation from the Legal Innovators California Conference in San Francisco. The discussion features Chris Fisher of Myriad Ventures and Jonathan Levy of Y Combinator, two prominent investors in the legal tech space. They delve into the shifts in legal tech investments from the pre-ChatGPT era to the post-ChatGPT world, the impact of AI on legal services, and the emerging talent in the field. The investors also share insights on their investment strategies, the importance of domain expertise, and their vision for the future of legal tech. In this episode:
    • Investing in Legal Tech: Pre and Post ChatGPT
    • The Talent Surge in Legal Tech
    • AI's Impact on Legal Practices
    • Future of AI in Legal: Opportunities and Challenges
    • AI in Legal Apprenticeship
    • AI as a Junior Associate
    • Investment Strategies in Legal Tech
    • Specialized Legal Tech Solutions
    • VC Model and AI Startups
    • Evaluating Legal Tech Startups
    • Productizing Legal Services
    Learn More: Chris - https://www.myriadventures.com/profile/chris-fisher Jonathan - https://www.ycombinator.com/people Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Chris - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-fisher-111a9025 Jonathan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-levy-b98986b3 Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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    39 min
  • E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan

    E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan
    Aug 9 2025
    E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan In episode 25 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz sits down with David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters and Ragunath (Raghu) Ramanathan, President of Legal Professionals and Government at Thomson Reuters, to discuss the 2025 Future of Professionals Report. The conversation explores AI's increasing adoption and its impact on the legal industry. In this episode:
    • Discussing the Future of Professionals Report
    • AI Adoption and Productivity Insights
    • Comparing In-House Legal Departments and Law Firms
    • AI Strategy and Leadership in Law Firms
    • Understanding the ROI in Law Firms
    • Time Savings and Efficiency Gains
    • Quality Improvements and Creative Benefits
    • Adoption Strategies in Small vs. Large Firms
    • Thomson Reuters' AI Strategy and Market Position
    • Domain-Specific AI vs. General AI
    References: 2025 Future of Professionals Report - https://www.thomsonreuters.com/content/dam/ewp-m/documents/thomsonreuters/en/pdf/reports/future-of-professionals-report-2025.pdf Learn More: David - https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/about-us/executive-team Raghu - https://www.trust.org/people/ragunath-ramanathan/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: David - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/dfwong Raghu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raghunathr Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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    48 min
  • E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting

    E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting
    Jul 2 2025

    In this episode, Zach interviews Tara Waters, founder of TLW Consulting and former Chief Digital Officer at Ashurst, who led the firm’s rollout of Harvey. They discuss Harvey’s meteoric rise in legal AI, Tara’s firsthand experiences adopting Harvey within a global firm, and how legal teams evaluate AI tools. The conversation explores why lawyers initially gasped at Harvey’s capabilities, how expectations have matured, and what true digital transformation in law might require. Tara emphasizes that law firms should rethink their entire business model and workflows rather than just choosing a tool.

    In this episode:
    • Early Days of Harvey
    • Adoption and Impact of AI in Law Firms
    • Challenges and Realities of AI Integration
    • Future of AI in Legal Industry
    • Law Firm Transformation and AI
    Links Mentioned in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCEmiRjPEtQ https://www.legallydisrupted.com/p/has-harvey-already-won Follow Tara: Website - https://www.tlw-consulting.com/ Content: https://www.innovationesq.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlwaters/ Follow Zach: Website -https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Linkedin - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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    35 min
  • E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures

    E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures
    Jun 10 2025
    In this episode, Zach Abramowitz is joined by Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures, to delve into the hot topic of investment in legal AI. They discuss the hype around billion-dollar valuations and the reality behind customer adoption and revenue sustainability. Eli shares insights from his hands-on approach, including talking to actual buyers and hosting GC therapy dinners. They debate the future of legal AI, whether horizontal AI assistants or vertical workflow automation will prevail, and examine companies like Harvey, Legora, New Code, OpenPolicy, and Legalmation. This episode offers a nuanced view on the challenges and opportunities in the legal AI space. Discover:
    • Deep Dive into Legal AI Adoption
    • The VC Perspective on Legal AI
    • Challenges and Opportunities in Legal AI
    • The Future of Legal AI and VC Investments
    • Case Studies and Market Dynamics
    • The Role of Innovation in Legal AI
    • Concluding Thoughts and Upcoming Events
    References: Conversation with Paid CEO Manny Medina - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESa1TdS3dI4&t=318s Learn More: Eli - https://ridge.vc/eliyahou-amsellem/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Eli - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliyahou-amsellem-13aa2b164/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz, https://x.com/ZachAbramowitz, https://youtube.com/@legallydisrupted?si=MGT7nW96PdM4a2ZM
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    33 min