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Thorns Have Roses

Written by: Anurag Papolu and Christina Li
  • Summary

  • Do roses have thorns, or do thorns have roses? We offer a different way of seeing the world. Join us biweekly as we dissect modern topics with knowledgeable people to broaden our perspectives.
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Episodes
  • History of colors + feuds about foods + Street Dance of China
    Aug 30 2021

    In this week’s episode, Anurag discusses the history of colors, such as indigo and carmine, and how they can help us understand what the world was like in the past. Christina talks about a few incidents of white people in the West starting businesses related to Asian cuisine and the Twitter feuds that followed. We also discuss the Chinese reality TV show Street Dance of China and why it’s so much fun to watch.


    Links:

    The Secret Lives of Color by Kassia St. Clair, a book which provides brief histories of many colors.

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    Indian yellow


    An article about the history of indigo

    Gandhi’s Champaran Satyagraha

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    Pippa Middlehurst’s cookbook Dumplings and Noodles

    'Queen of Congee'

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    A dance battle from Street Dance of China Season 4 (full episodes are available on the Youku channel on YouTube - subtitles available in multiple languages!)

    Jam's Germs on Instagram





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    47 mins
  • What’s missing in the fight to mitigate climate change
    Aug 16 2021

    In this episode, Anurag and Christina talk to Dr. Samantha Chisholm Hatfield about Traditional Ecological Knowledge (TEK). How do indigenous people develop and use TEK to thrive along with nature, rather than exploiting it? We also discuss things like how time is perceived differently in indigenous communities and how the global fight against climate change can greatly benefit by utilizing and learning from TEK.


    Dr. Samantha Chisholm Hatfield is an enrolled member of the Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians and is also Cherokee. She has a Doctorate from Oregon State University in Environmental Sciences focusing on Traditional Ecological Knowledge (TEK) and is a research scientist, author, and international speaker.


    Indigenous authors and scholars mentioned in the episode: Kyle Powys Whyte, Daniel Wildcat, Gregory Cecchetti, Vine Deloria Jr., Julie Maldonado, Kathy Lynn, Frank Lake, Winona LaDuke


    Link to study about the Haenyeo community.

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    46 mins
  • How will people adapt to extreme heat and rising temperatures?
    Aug 1 2021

    Christina and Anurag talk to Dr. Teevrat Garg about how people are being affected by rising temperatures, and how they might adapt as temperatures around the world rise in the coming decades. Dr. Garg talks to us about various research studies from around the world that document how more days of extreme heat result in effects ranging from lower productivity to increasing levels of violence. We also discuss how social policy plays an important role in helping populations cope with climate change  while technological innovations help reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere.

    Dr. Teevrat Garg is an Assistant Professor of economics at the School of Global Policy and Strategy at University of California, San Diego.

    His research is at the intersection of environmental and development economics with an emphasis on the role of public policy and institutions in helping the poor cope with environmental changes from climate change to water and air pollution.

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    37 mins

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