In this episode of the Salim Ismail Podcast, #4, Salim sits down with Vinay Gupta to discuss spirituality, meditation, and the future of humanity and civilization. Vinay shares his background in modeling worst-case scenarios for military think tanks, and how this work led him to develop a meditation course called the Cutting Machinery. This meditation process is designed for individual practitioners and integrates traditional spiritual practices with the modern context of existential risk. Vinay explains why group-based spiritual communities tend to turn toxic, and how he has addressed this issue by having practitioners work with their own therapists and not participate in any kind of community or group. This approach allows for emotional processing to be professionalized and keeps the meditation process drama-free. Join Salim and Vinay for an insightful conversation on the intersection of spirituality, meditation, and the future of our world.

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