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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling houses to working behind the scenes on global hits for artists like 5 Seconds of Summer, David Guetta, Galantis, Alan Walker, and more.

If you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, producer, or future manager, this episode is basically a free masterclass. Jared breaks down what it really takes to build a career in today’s industry, sharing the advice he wishes he had starting out.

And because we can’t resist, we also drag Jared through our favorite recurring segments. Spoiler: he’s officially over Labubus.

Connect with Jared!

@jaredkaner / @thearenamusic

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⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom

“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic

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Happy Holidays and Happy Thanksgiving to our beautiful listeners! This week, Haley and Gavyn gather around the proverbial Thanksgiving table for a cozy holiday episode. They take a trip down memory lane and revisit old episodes in a rebranded “Into It and Over It,” now appropriately titled “It’s Giving Thanks… or No Thanks.” They dive into everything they’re genuinely grateful for this year, along with the things that are… respectfully not invited to the feast.

Between the gratitude, they fall right back into their regularly scheduled yap sesh: Haley shares a backhanded “compliment” she received while getting Botox and a run-in with a heroic Postmates driver. Meanwhile, Gavyn fights for that title when he reveals his one-night-only career moment as a Postmates driver himself.

It’s nostalgic, it’s chaotic, it’s heartfelt...exactly the kind of mess you want in your ears this Thanksgiving. 🧡

Happy Thanksgiving from our family to yours!

xoxo,
Gavyn & Haley

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@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠ ⁠

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Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove"

Rex Banner - "Silent Night"

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Breaking news! Gavyn finally left his apartment which means he and Haley are back in the same room for the first time in a year. Huge! They’re joined by the incredible artist/songwriter Debbii Dawson. They talk growing up in a musical family, her journey from AGT to today, building confidence onstage, and navigating the internet as an artist. This one is full of good tea.

🎶 Listen / Connect with Debbii:

Spotify

Apple Music

Instagram

TikTok

👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:

@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠ ⁠

@haleschaps⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠

Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom

“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic

And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

13:40 Welcome Debbii Dawson

13:55 Pit & Peak

21:40 America’s Got Talent

23:57 Musical Upbringings and Influences

28:36 Debbii’s New Era

31:00 "I Want You”

32:12 Reality of the Music Industry

34:21 Achieving Confidence

39:40 Touring

42:56 Into It & Over It

50:00 Decoding Dreams & Hallucinations

1:00:26 Unpopular Opinions

1:02:36 Final Question and Closing