• Turning One-Time Listeners Into Loyal Podcast Fans
    Dec 3 2025
    Turning casual listeners into loyal podcast fans and building true community, plus how shorter episodes, punchy hooks, and connecting with your audience can grow your show in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ... Big Ideas in This Episode Hook listeners with stolen cowboy boots mysteryShorter episodes: save time, boost completion envySecrets to building real podcast community revealedTease your best stories ... ignite listener curiosityAudiograms that actually convert: the three-bullet fixTurn guests into trusted insiders, gain listener loyaltyAre you the host no one likes? Brutal truth exposed Why You Should Listen The sneaky shortcut for turning one-time listeners into raving, loyal fans (even if they're complete strangers now)Why 35% podcast completion rates can be a secret goldmine ... and how to double them without spending a dimeThe forbidden "cold open" trick that hooks listeners in seconds — even those with zero attention spanHow to tap into envy and make every founder desperate to appear on your showThe lazy podcaster's hack for building a vibrant community (without endless social media posts or wasted DM replies)Are you making the deadly mistake that chases new listeners away before they finish episode one?The "commuter psychology" secret: how to hijack drive-time and steal market share from mega-shows like Joe RoganThe single question that transforms a boring interview into must-listen drama ... and no guest can resist answering itWhy posting more audiograms and quote cards might actually be killing your repeat listens (and the devilishly simple fix)How to wield LinkedIn and Instagram to trigger listeners' lust for status ... and make them brag about your show to their entire networkThe glutton's guide to packing episodes with the right amount of irresistible hooks (plus what happens when you add just one more)How to use the power of "insider secrets" to make listeners greedily consume every episode (and skip your competitors' shows)One spoken line that makes guests and listeners feel instantly connected, admired … and totally under your controlThe dark psychology behind why founders won't admit they're lost ... and how your show can become their safe havenThe little-known way to wield power in any niche community (use this and people will chase you for interviews, not the other way around!) Episode Timestamps [01:24] The silent struggle: Why your interview podcast might feel like "talking to strangers" instead of building real community[02:27] Are your episodes losing listeners because they're too long? The commuter's secret podcast formula revealed[03:39] Why a podcast's 35–40% completion rate could be a sign you're doing better than YouTube or blogging—don't miss this hidden strength![04:43] The political campaign trick that breaks through the noise ... and how podcasters can steal it[05:12] The stolen truck full of cowboy boots: How building suspense hooks listeners (and how you can use this radio technique in your own podcast)[08:11] The "three-bullet ad" trick: Teasing irresistible content in your audiograms and why this gets listeners to click[12:00] The credibility gap: Why early-stage founders won't open up (and why building trust is the secret weapon for podcasters who want big guests and loyal fans) You want these links ... Subscribe to Big Podcast PlaybookSee Big Podcast AMP for personalized podcast growth assistance The Newsletter for Podcasters Big Podcast Insider - Weekly Podcasting Newsletter ​ Big Podcast Insider is a weekly newsletter on podcasting. If you like the content of this episode, you can subscribe here – it's free and you can unsubscribe at any time with a single click.​ Want more help growing your podcast audience? Big Podcast Extra - Podcasting TipsBig Podcast AMP (Audio Monetization Program) Click the icon below to listen.
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    16 min
  • Grassroots Podcast Growth: Cutting Through the Noise
    Dec 1 2025
    Cutting through overwhelming noise, building real connections, and using grassroots strategies to grow your podcast, plus the surprising lessons learned from a local political campaign, in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ... Big Ideas in This Episode Grassroots hustle beats big-budget political noiseViral fame fades, relationships anchor true powerForget algorithms ... "door-knocking" builds real loyaltyAnnoying or helpful? Your marketing's razor's edgeNeighborhood influence trumps paid ads, every timeListeners lust for connection, not more emailEnvy the "hidden giants" winning offline Why You Should Listen How political campaigns in your backyard can unlock secret podcast marketing tricks (no politics required!)The cunning ways local candidates are cutting through relentless noise ... and how you can steal their playbook for your podcastWhy overwhelming your audience with more "content" could be killing your downloads (and the anti-noise shortcut that seduces listeners)Ever been added to an email list you never signed up for? Use this psychological switch to make listeners beg for your updates insteadWhat makes relentless door-knocking insanely effective ... get ready to make your audience lust after your showThe forbidden mistake: Why most marketers (and podcasters) become the enemy by ignoring this two-word strategyHow becoming "helpful" (instead of "annoying") can instantly boost your listening rates and win rabid fansDiscover the envy-inducing story of the dark horse candidate who mobilized an army ... using zero advertising dollars!The seduction of live events ... why toe-to-toe connections crush viral videos and social media hacks, every single timeSneaky ways to leverage word-of-mouth, harness laziness, and let others do your marketing for youWant listeners who never jump ship? Use this "community glue" secret no social network algorithm can touchThe glutton's path: How consuming more content leads to chaos ... and how saying less gets you heardHow to wield power and control over your niche by showing up where your listeners already worshipDominate local meetups, crush online webinars, and invade secret events for unfair audience growthWhy even mega-podcasters with "bajillion downloads" envy grassroots hustlers who grind out unstoppable loyal fanbases Episode Timestamps [00:02:56] The secret of surviving overwhelming noise: why most podcast ads are just clutter—and what you can do about it right now[00:05:42] The cringe story of how a political candidate put me on her mailing list without permission ... and why it's a marketing mistake you must avoid[00:06:42] The truck stop fire rescue: when "annoying" becomes "helpful" ... a must-hear lesson for marketers on grabbing attention for the right reasons[00:08:31] Why viral videos won't build your real audience (and what Nashville's "Hoktua girl" can teach you about lasting impact)[00:10:33] The grassroots army that knocked on 1,000 doors in my neighborhood ... how a "long shot" candidate flipped the script in a deeply red district[00:12:23] How to activate a network effect: turning one-on-one connections into contagious enthusiasm for your podcast[00:13:32] The radical truth: stepping off social media for a few days will show you what real relationships look like ... here's why offline connection wins every time You want these links ... Subscribe to Big Podcast PlaybookSee Big Podcast AMP for personalized podcast growth assistance The Newsletter for Podcasters Big Podcast Insider - Weekly Podcasting Newsletter ​ Big Podcast Insider is a weekly newsletter on podcasting. If you like the content of this episode, you can subscribe here – it's free and you can unsubscribe at any time with a single click.​ Want more help growing your podcast audience? Big Podcast Extra - Podcasting TipsBig Podcast AMP (Audio Monetization Program) Click the icon below to listen.
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    18 min
  • Audacity 4: The Big Upgrade
    Nov 26 2025

    Audacity 4 is here (sort of), and David takes you inside the alpha version, sharing why it's a game-changer for podcasters and how you can help shape its future in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ...

    Big Ideas in This Episode

    • Audacity 4: the free DAW pros will envy
    • Upgrade your workflow, unlock hidden podcast power
    • Take control, shape your tools
    • Sound like a pro ... minimal gear, maximum impact
    • Get inside: break, report, and shape
    • Podcasters influencing software ... how your wish becomes reality

    Why You Should Listen

    • How switching your podcast workflow can shatter your creative rut — steal this music industry trick
    • The "spaghetti code" curse that's killing software
    • How Audacity 4's destructive-free editing lets you reverse mistakes… even 50 steps later
    • Sound professional with hardware under $200
    • My plugin arsenal that can transform even dull recordings into something that sounds great
    • What the alpha release of Audacity 4 really means for early adopters
    • How to get on the ground floor of Audacity 4's development — and quietly shape a tool used by thousands
    • How you, even as a hobbyist, can gain power over the podcasting world by having your voice heard
    • The lazy podcaster's hack: let passionate coders build the perfect DAW for you — all you do is ask
    • How to infiltrate top podcast workflows and steal their best features (this will make your own show unstoppable)
    • The irresistible allure of open source

    Episode Timestamps

    • [01:17] The songwriter's trick for instantly transforming your podcast workflow and defeating creative ruts
    • [02:27] Is Audacity just for amateurs? The real story behind its reputation (and what's about to change)
    • [03:47] Why Audacity 4 is finally a "real" DAW: the inside scoop on the dramatic rewrite and what it unlocks
    • [04:25] How RX 11 plugins and $150 of gear can deliver studio-level audio—proof inside
    • [06:10] The unusual opportunity podcasters have right now to shape Audacity's future—before anyone else
    • [08:19] Why seasoned podcasters are "flipping out" about Audacity 4 ... and what you'll miss if you ignore the buzz

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    9 min
  • Unlocking Better Interviews: What Makes a Great Podcast Guest
    Nov 18 2025
    What really makes a podcast guest great (and why it's not just about filling out forms, sharing tips, or being a great speaker) in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ... Big Ideas in This Episode Your story's impact: would your audience miss you?Does vulnerability really trump selling in interviews?The secrets behind unforgettable guest energyFamous guests: does likability even matter?Reinvent your story? Or bore with "greatest hits"?The red light effect: overcoming instant stage frightCelebrity interviews: don't expect a glowing review Why You Should Listen The dirty little secret to landing podcast interviews (even if you're a total nobody) by mastering just three wordsHow to hypnotize even the most famous guest into working as hard as YOU to make your show shineWhy being "vulnerable" and "authentic" might be the most overrated advice in podcasting (and what REALLY moves listeners to action)The effortless way to make celebrities beg to be on your podcast (hint: no forms, no groveling, no nonsense)The only question you must ask before ever releasing a guest episode (miss this and risk sabotaging your entire show)How to sniff out guests who are only there to sell (and what to do if the "product over people" formula just might serve you)The "energy-hacker" move that gets slouchy, tired, reluctant guests buzzing with secrets they've never revealed anywhere elseWhy you should never, ever expect (or care) if your guest shares your episode ... and what to demand insteadThe shocking truth about "trusted podcast networks" (and why trying to make friends with your guests could be killing your power)Stories vs. Perfection: The twisted reason your listeners lust for messy, memorable anecdotes (and how to get guests to spill them all)The evil genius way to make even jaded "greatest hits" guests unleash fresh, envy-inducing stories that light your audience on fire"Red Light Syndrome" exposed—how to shatter a guest's crippling stage fright and turn nervous wrecks into captivating interview goldHow to banish boring "transparent and authentic" interviews forever by invoking ancient gluttony for dramatic tales, confessions, and regretsThe little-known trick to controlling any interview ... even when sleazy PR reps and bored celebrities try to turn your show into a snooze-festWhy focusing on one listener (not thousands) gives you an unfair, almost greedy hold over your audience's loyalty, pocketbook, and mind Episode Timestamps [00:01:41] The one email test: How a guest's vulnerability and authenticity decide "Yes" or "Pass" for interviews[00:03:02] The homeless man's untold story: Why every person on the street could be your podcast's most unforgettable guest[00:06:01] Mic legends and faceless reps: Should you ever choose the product over the person when booking guests?[00:08:17] "Tin can and a string" — Why Dolly Parton never had to fill out a guest form (and why the rules change for superstars)[00:10:22] A secret guest-hacking trick: The backstage moment that gets rock stars excited in interviews[00:16:23] The Dennis DeYoung debacle: Why "playing Broadway tunes for a Styx crowd" is a podcasting mistake you must avoid[00:19:33] The "red light syndrome": How guests transform when the record button is hit (and what hosts must do to get the real story) You want these links ... Subscribe to Big Podcast PlaybookSee Big Podcast AMP for personalized podcast growth assistance The Newsletter for Podcasters Big Podcast Insider - Weekly Podcasting Newsletter ​ Big Podcast Insider is a weekly newsletter on podcasting. If you like the content of this episode, you can subscribe here – it's free and you can unsubscribe at any time with a single click.​ Want more help growing your podcast audience? Big Podcast Extra - Podcasting TipsBig Podcast AMP (Audio Monetization Program) Click the icon below to listen.
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    32 min
  • How to Become a Great Podcast Host
    Nov 15 2025

    Want to know what really makes a podcast host great? David Hooper breaks down the secrets to setting the space, guiding guests, and running unforgettable interviews in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ...

    Big Ideas in This Episode

    • The truth about co-author interviews
    • Guests that kill episode momentum
    • How big-name guests hog all attention
    • Insider secrets for making podcast guests shine
    • Why publicists ruin unforgettable interviews
    • Good hosts aren't born, they're made

    Why You Should Listen

    • The secret weapon to making your podcast unforgettable (even your mom will brag about it)
    • The forbidden hosting mistake that kills guest chemistry
    • How to harness guest envy to supercharge your podcast's impact (and your own authority!)
    • The host's power move for dealing with pushy publicists ... and why Howard Stern never deals with this
    • Are you making the "value meal blunder" on your show? How to avoid it ...
    • The little-known trick for setting the stage so guests deliver their most brilliant insights (without begging)
    • The easiest way to make every guest desperately want to impress you
    • Build instant trust with even the most nervous first-timer (they'll follow your lead all episode)
    • The dangerous temptation of scripted questions ... how to break free and ignite deeper conversations
    • Why great podcast hosts are forged in the flames of failure (and how laziness can help you shortcut the process)
    • The seductive art of listening: why stealing singer secrets will make your hosting irresistible
    • Use the "closet trick" to sound like a pro ... even if you're broke and recording at home
    • How to exploit guest greed for exposure by giving them social media "bling" they'll lust after
    • The psychology of power: Why you must command the energy before the mics get hot
    • The glutton's guide to extracting maximum value from every guest (without letting them hijack your show)

    Episode Timestamps

    • [00:02:35] Why having more than one guest can sabotage your interview ... and the secret "guest differential" mistake most podcasters don't see coming
    • [00:03:45] The time a big-name musician brought "sidecar"
    • [00:05:31] Why "value meal" interviews don't work
    • [00:06:32] The forbidden role of publicists
    • [00:07:47] The real art of "setting the space"—sneaky ways to make guests shine and why pre-interviews aren't just for question lists
    • [00:09:03] "You're the chauffeur, the Sherpa" ... the surprising reason your energy as a host can make or break your guest's performance
    • [00:11:34] Why being a great podcast host is exactly like being a great singer ... and the key lesson from an acapella legend that will transform your interviews

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    15 min
  • Hard Truths About Podcast Coaching, Ads, and Growth
    Nov 9 2025

    Why spending big money on ads, chasing viral fame, or following every new platform isn't the answer (and what really builds a podcast audience that matters) in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ...

    Big Ideas in This Episode

    • Luck, ads, or fame: podcast growth myths exposed
    • Viral moments: why fame doesn't equal loyalty
    • $15,000 spent, only 178 downloads ... now what?
    • Famous parents, forgotten children
    • Coaches promising millions
    • Build longing: make a podcast worth missing
    • Small hinges, big doors

    Why You Should Listen

    • How podcasters burn thousands on ads
    • Why "famous" is worthless (and what really drives listener obsession)
    • The jaw-dropping viral video contract
    • The real reason coaches push "the basics" (and why the lazy are secretly drawn to them)
    • When $15,000 in ads only gets you 178 listeners
    • How podcast consultants charge $7500
    • The seductive power of a giant antenna (and why you'll never buy your way to the top)
    • What social media "gurus" won't tell you about YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and podcast growth
    • Why unlocking listener loyalty unleashes total control over your audience (and their wallets)
    • The envy-fueled drama behind working with "competitors" (and why it's no real competition)
    • How churches and religious groups quietly dominate media ... and the secrets you can steal
    • What Fox News-style audience swapping reveals for hungry podcasters
    • The lazy podcaster's shortcut: Think you can survive without changing? Think again
    • How "air checks" from the pros create radio envy ... and a path to dominating your niche
    • Why the "small hinges, big doors" formula can make power, greed, and loyalty swing YOUR way

    Episode Timestamps

    • [00:02] The letter from a frustrated podcaster: Is there really very little you can do to grow a show unless you're lucky or famous?
    • [06:05] "Viral moments won't get you loyal listeners" ... the Nashville Hawk Tuah girl story and the myth of overnight success
    • [07:18] Spending $15,000 on ads for 178 downloads per day: Is audience growth really for sale?
    • [09:16] Why even the daughter of the King of Rock and Roll can't leverage fame into real influence ... and what that teaches us about podcasting
    • [13:16] The hard truth about religious and niche shows: why your topic might get you ignored no matter how much you spend
    • [15:06] The $4000 guitar mistake: Why buying the fanciest tools won't make your podcast sing if you skip this one thing
    • [22:24] The secret to becoming a better podcaster that most will never try ... what SiriusXM jocks do that you probably don't

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    27 min
  • Why I Changed the Name of this Podcast After 700 Episodes (and How You Can Too)
    Nov 4 2025
    After nearly 700 episodes, David Hooper made the bold decision to change this podcast's name. Why he did it, how it impacts his listeners, and what you should consider before a rebrand in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ... Big Ideas in This Episode Change your name, change your momentumThe grass is greener: podcasters crave noveltyBig mistakes: don't buy your own hypeSunk cost: abandon your old podcast identity?Relentless rebranding: how Shaq forced my handScud Busters ... why trendy names die fastYour audience isn't loyal (they barely notice) Why You Should Listen Why changing your podcast name might be the breakthrough you crave ... discover when to strike for maximum momentum (even if you're 700 episodes in!)The dangerous false hope behind "just one name change" ... and how the real pros use rebrands to seize power and control over their audience (and competition!)The 5-question "naming test" top podcasters use to bulletproof their brand for years—most quit after question #2 (you won't!)How to seduce bored listeners back to your show (without spending a dime or recording a single extra episode)The secret curse of "linear" podcast names and how they trap you in startup mode forever (and what to do about it!)When the thrill is gone: the dirty truth about why most podcasters can't keep up—plus a play to outlast your laziest rivalsA classic "relaunch" play ripped from the WWE's billion-dollar script to conquer confusion and cement listener loyalty for lifeThe hidden power in a boring podcast title—why placing one special letter at the front can rocket you to the top of every directory (and block giants like Shaq)The "asset audit" checklist that reveals all the secret places your old podcast name is still haunting you…and how to erase it for goodThe ruthless mindset shift: how to kill sunk cost perfectionism (and why loyal listeners actually envy the bold who change course)The most overlooked source of seduction in podcasting—how your internal motivation can make your show irresistible in any marketThe glutton's guide to reusing old content—stack your best hits and fool new listeners into binging your "fresh" formatThe step-by-step rollout to ensure your rebrand dominates every directory, email, and feed (miss one, and you'll lose your herd)The forbidden lesson from celebrity podcasts and why blindly chasing their success leads straight to exhaustion and obscurityThe real reason listeners miss name changes for months (even superfans)—and the sneaky, persistent way to implant your new identity in their brains forever Episode Timestamps [00:01:49] Why most podcasters change their show name five or six times—and how it might sabotage your success[00:03:26] The little-known "B at the front" strategy for podcast names and how alphabetical sorting can change your show's fate[00:04:12] Why "big" and "podcast" are the riskiest words to put in your podcast title (and how Shaquille O'Neal almost stole the show)[00:09:16] The brutally honest advice: "Don't stay in a bad relationship with your podcast" (and why sunk cost should never trap you)[00:10:53] The secret story behind WWE's epic rebrand from WWF and what it teaches about perfect timing for change[00:13:40] The cautionary tale of "Big Podcast Daily" ... how a name can attract the wrong audience, and why it pays to ignore downloads[00:25:27] The hilarious "Scud Busters" morning show blunder ... how fleeting trends can ruin your brand for years You want these links ... Subscribe to Big Podcast PlaybookSee Big Podcast AMP for personalized podcast growth assistance The Newsletter for Podcasters Big Podcast Insider - Weekly Podcasting Newsletter ​ Big Podcast Insider is a weekly newsletter on podcasting. If you like the content of this episode, you can subscribe here – it's free and you can unsubscribe at any time with a single click.​ Want more help growing your podcast audience? Big Podcast Extra - Podcasting TipsBig Podcast AMP (Audio Monetization Program) Click the icon below to listen.
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    33 min
  • Avoiding Failure Porn and Focusing on Your Authentic Podcast Voice
    Oct 30 2025
    Ever wonder if you should really pay attention to your instincts—or if chasing excitement will only burn you out? David Hooper breaks down the final step to finding your podcasting voice (and what NOT to do with your flaws) in this episode of Big Podcast Playbook ... Big Ideas in This Episode Change your podcast name, ignite listener curiosityExploit your flaws ... but don't overshare your failuresDopamine addiction: how podcasts spiral into extremesMost podcasters sabotage themselves with fake "voice"Data-driven shows: fun-killers or growth hacks?Show up relentlessly; earn envy, respect, loyaltyReady to commit? Podcasting tests your willpower Why You Should Listen The dirty little secret behind finding your podcasting "voice" (most podcasters never figure this out)Why obsessing over your own flaws will make you irresistible ... or ignite envy in rivals who wish they had your vulnerabilityThe simple introspection hack that exposes what actually excites, repels, and thrills you (so you can binge-feed your audience's gluttony for authenticity)The ironclad way to tell if you should show off your skeletons … or bury them foreverHow to use "failure porn" to command eyeballs (but why it's a trap for the lazy weaklings of the podcasting world)Trusting your instincts: the power move that gives you complete control, even when your numbers say you shouldn'tWhy chasing dopamine spikes is a recipe for podcast mediocrity ... plus what to do instead if you crave influence and powerThe subtle distinction most podcasters miss between talking about who you were … and showing off who you are NOW (envy alert: this is how the pros do it)The truth about voicing your private conversations ... what if "the real you" threatens to sabotage your own growth?The notorious "two camps" podcaster dilemma: Are you a cold-blooded stat-watcher or a gut-driven visionary?How to build a cult-like audience that spreads your message for you—all while making your critics drool with jealousyThe ultimate litmus test for podcaster success ... are you brave enough to set boundaries and define your own rules?Why the raw agony of being ignored is your secret weapon for outlasting every wannabe who gives up too soonHow to plan five years ahead and engineer a binge-worthy empire people lust after… starting from today's episodeThe mystique of rebranding after 700+ episodes: What you can steal from a master podcaster's bold move (and why it might set you free) Episode Timestamps [00:00] Meet the new podcast ... same as the old podcast? Why David switched names after 700+ episodes![00:01] "People don't care about your flaws." Why showcasing your failures might actually hurt your podcast.[00:01:49] The shocking truth about "failure porn" ... why stories of hitting rock bottom get clicks, but may destroy your message.[00:02:33] When paying attention to yourself backfires ... what happens if you listen to your past, not your future?[00:03:17] Are you trapped by the dopamine hit? The dark side of chasing listeners using extreme stories.[00:04:27] The #1 question every podcaster must ask: could you commit to your show for three years (or even five)?[00:05:32] How showing up again and again builds respect and finds your true audience, even if you're not a household name. You want these links ... Subscribe to Big Podcast PlaybookSee Big Podcast AMP for personalized podcast growth assistance The Newsletter for Podcasters Big Podcast Insider - Weekly Podcasting Newsletter ​ Big Podcast Insider is a weekly newsletter on podcasting. If you like the content of this episode, you can subscribe here – it's free and you can unsubscribe at any time with a single click.​ Want more help growing your podcast audience? Big Podcast Extra - Podcasting TipsBig Podcast AMP (Audio Monetization Program) Click the icon below to listen.
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    7 min