There’s something powerful about seeing someone in their 60s still moving with purpose — not out of nostalgia, not to prove a point, but because the fire is still there. Not the reckless fire of youth, but the refined kind. The kind that knows who it is.

In this episode of Still Becoming, Bobby sits down with Ray Knerr — a lifelong runner, coach, competitor, and quiet example of what it means to keep showing up long after the world expects you to slow down.

Ray is in his mid-60s and still competing at a high level. Just this past year alone, he placed fifth at the Indoor World Championships in the 800m, ran 2:18 in the 800m, clocked 18:25 at the Carlsbad 5000 on the roads, and ran an indoor 3K in 10:22. On paper, those numbers are impressive. But the real story of this episode goes much deeper than times and results.

Recovery took longer. Speed required more intention. Strength had to be maintained, not assumed. The body no longer bounced back automatically. But what’s striking is that Ray doesn’t frame these changes as losses. He frames them as information.

What changed physically? Recovery became more important. Warm-ups mattered. Cool-downs mattered. Strength and mobility stopped being optional. But on the flip side, something else remained remarkably intact — the love of the process, the desire to compete, and the internal drive to keep improving.

Ray talks openly about comparing himself to his younger self — something almost every aging athlete struggles with. Instead of pretending those thoughts don’t exist, he acknowledges them and then reframes them. The goal is no longer to chase who you were. It’s to respect who you are now.

When the conversation turns to training, Ray is refreshingly practical. He still runs frequently, but with purpose. He still does speed work, but it’s tailored. He still pushes himself, but not blindly.

Recovery, he emphasizes, is no longer something you squeeze in when convenient — it’s part of the training itself. Easy days are truly easy. Hard days are intentional. Strength training and mobility work are no longer accessories; they’re foundations.

The Mental Game

For Ray, it’s not fear of decline. It’s curiosity. It’s identity. It’s the simple question: What am I still capable of?

He talks about days when the body doesn’t respond — when the legs feel heavy, when workouts don’t click. Instead of spiraling, he zooms out. He reminds himself that consistency over time matters more than any single session.

When asked about the biggest mental difference between Ray at 20 and Ray now, the answer is clear: patience. A deeper trust in the process.

As the conversation closes, Ray offers advice for athletes in their 40s, 50s, and beyond — especially those thinking about restarting or redefining their relationship with sport.

Aging athletes often bring more discipline, better emotional regulation, and a stronger appreciation for the opportunity to move. When paired with smart training, that mindset becomes a powerful advantage.

The answers are quiet, grounded, and deeply human. There’s no dramatic declaration — just the steady truth that growth doesn’t stop unless we decide it does.

Aging doesn’t end your fire.

It refines it.

And as always, the reminder that anchors Still Becoming:

You’re still becoming.

And you’re the only one stopping you.

In this motivational solo episode, Bobby opens up about the mental battles that come with chasing a big dream — whether running, creating music, or pursuing any form of personal growth. He acknowledges a universal truth: sometimes it feels like the world is heavy. Not just physically, but mentally — a weight that tells us we’re tired, too old, too late, not strong enough, or that no one really cares about our goal anyway. He speaks directly to listeners who may feel worn down by the grind or overwhelmed by self-doubt.

From the start, the episode emphasizes that the pursuit of a goal is rarely glamorous. The early mornings feel lonely. The reps get boring. Progress can be painfully slow or invisible. He describes moments where he questions why he puts himself through the discomfort and pressure — moments where giving up would be so much easier.

But right there, in that tension, he finds the heartbeat of this episode:

Ambition doesn’t disappear, even when motivation does.

He reminds listeners that ambition is that small, stubborn spark inside that whispers: “There’s more in you.” That spark doesn’t demand perfection — it just asks for the next step. When the negativity hits, when the run feels terrible, when the progress feels nonexistent — the ambition is still alive underneath, waiting for us to act on it.

❝One bad run doesn’t break your goal. It’s the consistency that matters.❞

Bobby shares a recent personal example: getting out the door for a run that felt awful — physically draining and mentally discouraging. Instead of treating it as a failure, he reframed it: showing up on the bad days is part of progress. The great days will come again, but the messy days are what build real strength.

You don’t wait to feel confident — you build confidence by doing.

Bobby shifts the message from running toward any passion someone is scared to start:

• Want to sing?
• Want to make music?
• Want to start a new hobby?
• Want to reinvent yourself?

Don’t overthink the finish line, he says. Don’t get stuck imagining the perfect end version of who you want to be. Instead:

“Just put the shoes on.”

or

“Just walk into the studio.”

Progress isn’t a single leap — it’s one minute at a time

A major theme of the episode is time — specifically, the idea that every finish line is made up of thousands of tiny steps. Bobby encourages listeners to focus not on the entire journey but on the next minute:

“You need to remind yourself just to win the next minute.”

He warns against the trap of treating effort like a test you pass or fail. Instead, view it as a daily conversation with your ambition:

• Can I give one more minute?
• Can I take one small step forward?
• Can I show up even if it’s messy?

Every tiny action builds a foundation that future victories will stand on.

“Being there. Showing up. Even when it’s messy.”

Flaws make the story interesting. Setbacks make the success earned. Imperfection makes you relatable — to others and to yourself.

He challenges the listener:

If you haven’t done the thing yet — just try it today.

Not to reach the end.

Not to impress anyone.

But simply to start.

The smallest start can open doors you don’t even know exist yet.

Let the rest take care of itself

You’ll look back and realize:

• It wasn’t as bad as your anxiety predicted
• You actually had fun
• You felt proud that you took action

The feeling doesn’t come before doing the thing — it comes after.

So try.

Move.

Start.

And when you do…

Don’t stop.

Final Message: You’re Capable. Keep Going.

You’re not here because the path is easy.

You’re here because you believe — or at least you hope — that it’s worth it.

Even if he’s never met you.

Even if you don’t yet believe in yourself.

The episode ends with a powerful reminder:

Every dreamer fights doubt.

Every journey has terrible days.

But the spark inside you — the ambition — is still alive.

You just need to show up

for the next minute.

Welcome to the first episode of Still Becoming. I’m your host, Bobby — a husband, father, massage therapist, and lifelong runner who just can’t shake the belief that I’m still capable of more.

In this debut, I share the story behind this show: growing up with huge goals in running, dreaming of the Olympic Trials, and then feeling life shift — responsibilities taking over, recovery getting harder, and that young fearless version of myself seeming further away every year.

But even at 39… the fire hasn’t gone out.

This podcast is for anyone who still feels that spark — the desire to chase something real, even when the world assumes your best chapters are already written. I talk about what it’s like to keep training seriously at my age, the doubts that show up, the comparison trap with my younger self, and the deep fear of letting go before I find out who I can still become.

If you’re someone who refuses to accept that age equals limitations…

If you want to believe in yourself again…

If you want proof that passion doesn’t retire…

Then this is your place.

Getting older doesn’t mean you’re done.

It doesn’t mean your best days are behind you…

and it definitely doesn’t mean you have to stop chasing the things that make you feel alive.

My name is Bobby, and this is Still Becoming—

a podcast for people who are still trying to pursue their passions.

even when life’s gotten heavier, busier, and more complicated than ever.

Join me and hear stories and honest conversations

from athletes, creators, and everyday people just like you.

who refuse to tap out just because the world says “you’re not young anymore.

So if you’ve ever had that doubt or tired of thinking it’s to late.

you’re in the right place.

Welcome to Still Becoming. You’re the only one stopping you!