How can you genuinely honor someone's working frustrations, beyond just being aware of them?

In episode 98 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the idea of honoring working frustrations—the tasks that drain energy, even when you’re good at them. Using team member Tracy Noble as a case study, they discuss how competence without joy leads to burnout and how leaders can reorganize work to restore energy and dignity.

Topics explored in this episode:

(01:00) The Cost of Competence

* The danger of confusing skill with joy and how it drains energy over time.

(03:20) Understanding What Drains Us

* How some people excel at things they dislike, leading to burnout.

* Recognizing frustration is an act of respect, not weakness.

(06:00) Team Reorganization

* How team roles at The Table Group were restructured to align with genius types.

(09:00) Redefining Productivity and Human Dignity

* How long-term effectiveness outweighs short-term efficiency.

* Honoring frustrations is essential to dignity and joy in work.

(13:20) Applying Working Genius to Real Roles

* Cody shares practical ways to match people’s genius with job requirements.

* Pat reflects on his own burnout and how awareness of frustration fosters empathy.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about

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How does your work or home environment shape the way you see your Working Genius?

Episode 97 of the Working Genius Podcast explores how environment and culture can dramatically influence how people view their own talents. Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matt Lencioni share personal stories and client examples where individuals misunderstood their results because of the strong pull of their surroundings. They also discuss how, when you take the Working Genius assessment, it's essential to put aside what you think you should be doing and instead focus on what brings you joy and energy.

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:30) Environment and Perception

* How our environment can distort our Working Genius assessment results.

* Cody describes how people often answer based on workplace expectations instead of core joy.

(5:42) Stories of Misalignment

* Examples of people whose results were skewed by strong cultural or organizational environments.

* A Marine veteran and a priest are highlighted as cases where structure shaped inaccurate results.

(15:30) Wonder as the Overlooked Genius

* How Matt misidentified his geniuses because of college leadership roles.

* Why “wonder” can be undervalued in structured settings.

(20:43) Liberation Through Clarity

* The relief and freedom that come from discovering true geniuses.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about

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How can understanding your strengths and weaknesses through the Working Genius model lead to true confidence?

Confidence isn’t about pretending to be great at everything—it’s about knowing and accepting the truth about yourself. In episode 96 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explain how the Working Genius framework provides a foundation for authentic confidence rooted in both strengths and weaknesses. They share practical insights on how humility, honesty, and self-awareness create confidence that impacts work, relationships, and life.

Topics explored in this episode:

0:30 – Defining Confidence

* Confidence is not arrogance, but alignment with truth about yourself.

* Humility and confidence complement each other by grounding people in reality.

3:40 – The Power of Admitting Weaknesses

* Acknowledging what you’re not good at frees you to celebrate your real strengths.

6:20 – Building Confidence Through Working Genius

* The Working Genius framework provides language for identifying gifts and frustrations.

10:55 – Humility, Gifting, and Evidence

* Confidence is strengthened when you recognize gifts as given, not earned.

15:30 – Confidence for the Next Generation

* Helping young people discover their genius accelerates confidence and direction.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about

Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

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What creative analogies can you use to help understand your joy and frustration at work?

In episode 95 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody revisit one of their earliest metaphors for the Six Types of Working Genius model: the coffee cup analogy. They explore how it explains joy, competency, and frustration in work—and why new analogies like batteries, bikes, and even shoes can add nuance to the conversation. Along the way, they highlight how interest, energy, and preference intersect with genius.

Topics explored in this episode:

(3:42) Battery Analogies

* How genius can feel like charging a phone.

* Whether constant genius work is healthy or limiting.

(7:30) Bike Riding Analogies

* Cody introduces the uphill, flat, and downhill bike comparison.

* Pat adds how electric bikes recharge, mirroring the energy of genius.

(9:44) Analogies About Shoes and Household Chores

* The difference between genius and personal likes/dislikes.

(15:06) The Lunch Analogy

* How interest or disinterest in particular subjects or meals shape our energy.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about

Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

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This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How can the Working Genius model prevent decision-making confusion?

In episode 94 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat, Cody, and guest Krista Kotrla unpack the concept of “crossing the decision line,” exploring how leaders can move from healthy conflict to clear commitments, avoiding the trap of endless discernment and re-decision. Through practical tools like end-of-meeting discipline, clarity over certainty, and understanding the nuances of galvanizing, they discuss how to drive alignment, commitment, and faster execution.

Krista Kotrla is a consultant with The Table Group who helps leaders turn healthy conflict into clear commitments.

Topics explored in this episode:

* 00:00 – Defining the Decision Line

* 06:50 – Decision Science vs. Implementation Science

* 09:41 – Linking the Decision Line to the Five Dysfunctions

* 13:44 – Galvanizing and Communication After Decisions

* 16:35 – Real-World Example of Clarity Over Consensus

* 21:33 – The Power of Clarity in Leadership

Thanks to Krista Kotrla for being on the show!

Visit: https://kristakotrla.com/

Connect with Krista on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristakotrla

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about

Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

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What makes galvanizing more disruptive than other Working Geniuses?

In episode 93 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why galvanizing is the most disruptive of all the Working Geniuses. They unpack the nature of galvanizing as the only Genius that necessarily involves moving others, making it uniquely powerful—and often misunderstood. Through stories and reflection, they highlight the challenges and the essential value of galvanizers in any team or organization.

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:40) Why Galvanizing Disrupts by Nature

* Unlike other Geniuses, galvanizing cannot happen in isolation—it always affects others.

(4:33) Galvanizing

* People with galvanizing as a frustration often avoid rallying others or making requests.

* Teams without galvanizers struggle to gain momentum.

(7:25) Real-Life Galvanizing

* Cody shares a college story of galvanizing classmates.

* Even unpopular actions can be valuable when driven by a galvanizing instinct.

(11:14) Galvanizing Paired with Other Geniuses

* Adding G to any Genius makes the combination more action-oriented.

* Certain Genius pairings, like IG or GT, can help breakthrough change.

(15:03) Leading and Conviction

* Sometimes conviction or leadership can be mistaken for galvanizing.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment

Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

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Are you unintentionally discouraging others by calling something “easy”?

In episode 92 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of assuming that what’s easy and fun for you will be the same for others. They explore how working within your genius can make tasks feel effortless and how this can mislead us when advising or leading others. This episode is a reminder to value your own strengths and to honor the differences in how others are wired.

Topics explored in this episode:

(00:00) The Myth of Easy and Fun

* Pat shares a story about someone saying a college major was “easy and fun” without considering individual differences.

* The idea that what's easy within your genius can be misleading for others.

(03:18) Why 'Easy' Can Hurt

* Labeling tasks as “easy” can unintentionally demotivate or discourage others who struggle.

* People may feel inadequate or undervalued when they can't replicate what seems effortless to someone else.

(06:29) Practice vs. Joy

* Mastery alone doesn't lead to fulfillment if you're not working in your genius.

* Pat reflects on writing as a gift and contrasts it with skills he’s developed that still feel like a chore.

(09:29) Self-Awareness and Respecting Differences

* How practicing wonder isn’t fulfilling for Cody even if he gets better at it.

* The need to avoid pushing people into roles they’re not wired for.

(13:01) Real-World Consequences

* Misjudging others’ working genius can lead to years stuck in an unfulfilling career.

* Parenting and workplace examples that show how important it is to honor different gifts.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment

Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial.

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Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (

What makes the Genius of Enablement (“E”) such a crucial part of team implementation?

Episode 91 of the Working Genius Podcast dives into the Enablement Genius with guest Tracy Noble, Chief Development Officer at The Table Group. Pat, Cody, and Tracy explore the subtle power of Enablement—how it brings relational glue to implementation and drives team cohesion. They also unpack the differences between Enablement and people-pleasing, and how to regulate Enablement without shutting it down.

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:52) The Complexity of Enablement

* Tracy describes how her Discernment constantly informs her Enablement.

* How Enablement is often misunderstood.

* Enablement goes far beyond just being helpful or friendly.

(4:35) Implementation, Not Just Helping

* Enablement starts implementation with people, not tasks.

* Teams without E often operate in silos.

(9:09) Virtue Versus Genius

* Enablement isn't the same as kindness—it can be self-serving in a good way.

* Tracy shares why Enablement energizes her when it serves others.

(13:44) Enablement in Action

* Enablement plays out in both personal moments and strategic leadership.

(17:21) Regulating the E

* Even Geniuses need regulation—especially Enablement.

* Recognizing when Discernment is needed over Enablement.

This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workingGenius.com/about/assessment

Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

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