Helping is human…but learning how to help without losing yourself is healing.

In this bonus clip, Adam Wilson opens up about why helping others has become both his instinct and his biggest boundary challenge. From Costco moments to vulnerable conversations with his son, Adam shares how presence — not presents — is what children and loved ones truly need. We also talk about breaking generational parenting patterns, modeling emotional regulation, and the hard but necessary work of setting boundaries with our own parents.

A thoughtful, honest look at what it really means to grow, give, and protect your peace.

📚 Guest Info

· IG/Tiktok: @Theadamwilson_

· Facebook: Adam J Wilson

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How are you pausing and reflecting this holiday season?

In this reflective solo episode, Dawn pauses as we head into the holidays to share what’s happening across the Work Is Third movement—from the new Bookshop.org list and the Joyful Rebellion playlist to her bi-weekly newsletters and your opportunity to send in voice notes.

Dawn also revisits her favorite guest quotes, emerging themes across the first season, and her own “bonus clip moment” where she answers the same questions she asks every guest:
• What’s easy to say yes to?
• What’s hard to say no to?
• Where is she doing well with joy, rest, and boundaries?
• Where is she still struggling?

She closes with reflections on slowing down, stillness, present bias, perfectionism, listening to your body, and redefining success—plus an invitation to choose joy, protect your peace, and rest this holiday season.

In this episode:

• Protecting your joy in hard cultural moments

• A preview of the The Joyful Rebellion Reading List at Bookshop.org

• The Joyful Rebellion playlist + newsletter updates

• Why your voice notes matter and how to send one

• Guest quotes Dawn can’t stop thinking about

• Top themes emerging across the podcast

• Dawn’s personal “bonus clip” answers

• What she’s learned about rest, boundaries, stillness, and slowing down

• An end-of-year invitation to choose yourself first

Resources Mentioned:

• Bookshop list: The Joyful Rebellion Reading List

• The Joyful Rebellion newsletter: The Joyful Rebellion — Rest, Boundaries & Workplace Wellbeing

• The Joyful Rebellion Spotify Playlist

• Send Dawn a voice note

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We’re taught to hustle. We’re never taught to heal. That changes in this episode.

Mindset and wellness coach Adam Wilson joins Work Is Third for a powerful and vulnerable conversation about healing, habits, father and mother wounds, breaking generational patterns, and learning to rest. Adam shares how childhood trauma shaped his early life, what pushed him out of tech and into coaching, how he helps men reconnect with their Inner King, and the importance of sleep, routines, rest, and perspective in healing. Together, we explore transitions, self-doubt, boundary-setting—especially with parents—and practical steps to break the cycles we inherited. This episode is a reminder that healing is possible, seasons change, and you always have the power to rewrite your story.

📚 Guest Info

• IG/Tiktok: @Theadamwilson_
• Facebook: Adam J Wilson

🎶Adam's contribution to The Joyful Rebellion Spotify Playlist: Miguel, Skywalker

📚 Resources Mentioned

• The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer
• The Garden Within by Dr. Anita Phillips
• Adam’s podcast: Hustle & Heal
• Institute of Integrative Nutrition (IIN)

💬 Key Quotes

• “What’s uncomfortable now can be comfortable later.”
• “You are your best project. When are you going to take time for yourself?”
• “I love you, but I love me more.”
• “We’re taught to hustle, but nobody teaches us how to heal.”
• “Sometimes you have to rest to remember who you actually are.”

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📂 Section Markers

00:46 Section 1: Life Transitions and Childhood Patterns

25:14 Section 2: Routines, Rest, and Rewriting Your Story

📌Episode Chapters/Timestamps

00:00 Navigating Transitions and Embracing Change

02:46 The Power of Mindset and Daily Routines

05:13 Integrating Technology in Coaching

08:11 The Importance of Sleep and Rest

10:49 Creating Healthy Habits and Routines

17:01 Exploring Sleep and Body Awareness

20:08 The Journey to Coaching and Personal Growth

22:34 Understanding Childhood Patterns and Their Impact

25:58 The Role of Male Mentorship and Support

28:35 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Building Confidence

30:07 The Power of Perspective and Reading

37:08 Finding Purpose Beyond a Job

39:47 Embracing Rest and Personal Development

41:03 The Importance of Rest and Recovery

45:13 The Hustle and Heal Podcast Journey

46:29 Setting Boundaries with Family

46:56 Childhood Trauma and Its Impact

48:35 Embracing Uncomfortable Growth

If a 30-minute nap saves your whole day… take the nap.

In this bonus clip, systems strategist and author Averri Simone Liggins shares how she recognizes the early signs of burnout — and the simple practices that help her reset before things spiral. From power naps to prioritizing client work, to delegating and building a support circle, Averri reminds us that systems matter just as much in life as they do in business.

✨ If you’ve been running on empty, this one’s for you.

Listen to the full episode: The Systems You Need to Live Your Best Life

📚 Guest Info

· Autopilot Your Success —Averri’s Book

· Website: www.blackwomenmoguls.com

· Social media: @blackwomenmoguls

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How do you run a business, care for a parent, and thrive with a chronic health condition?

In this heartfelt and practical conversation, systems strategist and author Averri Simone Liggins shares the structures and routines that help her run a thriving business while also serving as a full-time caregiver and navigating chronic health challenges. We talk about the real-world power of systems as tools that make space for joy, boundaries, and taking care of both your future self and your present self.

We dig into:
• Why systems are the secret to more freedom
• How caregiving reshaped her business
• Saying no with confidence
• Managing energy, not just time
• The joy of hobbies, WWE nights, and creative adventures
• And the importance of planning both rest and fun

It’s a conversation full of warmth, wisdom, and real talk about life, business, boundaries, and what it takes to build a life that supports you.

📚 Guest Info

• Autopilot Your Success —Averri’s Book

• Website: www.blackwomenmoguls.com
• Social media: @blackwomenmoguls

💬 Key Quotes

• “My purpose is to build my business around my life—not the other way around.”
• “No is a complete sentence. You’re not being selfish by prioritizing yourself.”
• “If I don’t take care of myself, I won’t be able to take care of my mother.”
• “Knowing when to stop before you’re forced to stop is so important.”
• “Systems are usually the last thing we think about—until we need them.”

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📂 Section Markers

01:01 Section 1: Why Systems Matter for Building a Life That Works

23:30 Section 2: Health, Wealth, and Taking Care of Your Future Self

📌Episode Chapters/Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Systems and Success

01:34 The Birth of 'Autopilot Your Success'

07:10 The Importance of Systems in Business

10:55 Balancing Caregiving and Entrepreneurship

13:43 Listening to Your Body and Planning Breaks

19:24 Building a Business Around Your Life

20:33 Setting Boundaries for Personal Well-being

24:07 Navigating Personal Relationships and Boundaries

28:21 Future Self and Decision Making

29:41 Finding Balance in Life

32:31 Embracing Hobbies and Interests

36:45 Self-Care Practices and Rituals

39:28 The Importance of Exercise and Health

43:06 Navigating Health Challenges

45:09 Setting Boundaries and Saying No

45:16 Delegating and Asking for Help

How do you make time for yourself while still showing up for others?

In this lighthearted and honest bonus clip, Dawn and Lynn swap stories about self-care, boundaries, and the body changes no one warns you about.

From walking the dog and wearing sunscreen to navigating perimenopause and hot flashes in public, Lynn reminds us that taking care of ourselves is a lifelong practice—and humor helps.

This short conversation is a joyful reminder that wellbeing isn’t about perfection. It’s about showing up for yourself, one walk (or one sunscreen application) at a time.

🎶Lynn's additions to The Joyful Rebellion Spotify playlist:

• Fight Song by Rachel Platten
• Girls Just Wanna Have Fun by Cyndi Lauper

💬 Key Quotes:

• “It’s hard to say no to spending time with people you love with all your heart.”
• “One of the things I struggle with is I stretch myself too thin doing things for others and I lose time for myself.”

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What does it mean to lead with heart—and stay grounded when everything changes?

In this warm and reflective episode, Dawn reconnects with her former boss and friend, Lynn Gallagher, former Secretary of Health for New Mexico.

Together, they share stories of friendship, grief, leadership, and joy—from mismatched earrings and “Power Squad” calls to lessons learned through loss and career transitions. They explore what it means to redefine yourself after leadership, how to lead with kindness and courage, and why who you are matters more than what you do.

This episode is a love letter to strong, compassionate women in leadership and a reminder that staying rooted is one of the bravest things you can do.

🎶Lynn's additions to The Joyful Rebellion playlist:

• Fight Song by Rachel Platten
• Girls Just Wanna Have Fun by Cyndi Lauper

📘 Books & Resources Mentioned:

• We Should All Be Millionaires — Rachel Rodgers
• Designing Your Life — Bill Burnett & Dave Evans
• Attention Span — Gloria Mark
• Start with Why — Simon Sinek
• It Starts with Us — Colleen Hoover
• Of Mice and Men — John Steinbeck
• Slaughterhouse-Five — Kurt Vonnegut
• The Plague — Albert Camus
• A Different Kind of Power — Jacinda Ardern
• The Passage — Justin Cronin

💬 Key Quotes:

• “Who am I, if I’m not who I was?”
• “She changed people’s lives just by remembering their names.”

• “Staying rooted in who you are is part of boundary setting.”

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📂 Section Markers

01:07 Section 1: From Power Squad to Finding Purpose

24:10 Section 2: The Legacy of Kindness and Leading with Heart

📌Episode Chapters/Timestamps

00:00 Reconnecting and Catching Up

02:26 Shared Experiences in Public Health Leadership

06:39 Navigating Grief and Transition in Leadership

10:07 The Impact of Political Changes on Public Health

14:59 Personal Growth and Self-Discovery

17:36 The Legacy of Kindness in Leadership

29:13 The Importance of Rest and Recharge

35:20 Work-Life Balance: Putting Work Third

44:08 Celebrating Growth and Staying True to Yourself

Do you rest hard?

In this Work Is Third bonus clip, Tyneka Pack, founder of Impackt Fitness, reminds us that joy, rest, and boundaries are just as essential to leadership as drive and discipline.

From laughing about her love of cookies to reflecting on what truly brings her childlike joy, Tyneka offers a refreshing take on what it means to fill your own cup. She shares how overbooking herself reminded her to pause, reset, and make time for simple pleasures — because rest isn’t a reward, it’s part of the work.

Guest Info

• @tdeniise/@impackt_fitness (IG)
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyneka-pack-4221a441
• Website: www.impacktfitness.com

🎧 Listen to the full episode, Wellness That Works for Women Who Lead, for more on how to sustain your ambition without burning out.

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