Professor James Kakalios, the author of "The Physics of Superheroes," joins Douglas Wolk to discuss Warlock #4-7, featuring a very different Victor Von Doom. Topics discussed include whether Counter-Earth has a moon, how Kate Pryde's powers might work (and why the Flash's powers definitely don't), whether astrophysicists would know about Counter-Earth, how many physics labs have hotlines to the White House, the two other Counter-Earths, and the most important psychological difference between Reed Richards and Doom.

Graeme McMillan (of Wait, What?) joins Douglas to discuss Doctor Doom's appearances in Thor #182-183. Topics include Stan Lee's curious ideas about how jobs work in the real world, what surgeons do, the world's smallest political demonstration, the identity of the scientist in "This Man, This Monster," the background behind O'Bengh from "What If?," Doom's taste in furniture, which country Thor would be most likely to allow to have missiles, and exactly how terrible a doctor Donald Blake is.

Joe Streckert, the host of the Weird History Podcast, joins Douglas Wolk to discuss Sub-Mariner #47-49. Topics include how much Doctor Doom loves drama, the difference between "Kirk Drift" and "Flanderization," The Journal of M.O.D.O.K. Studies, Gene Colan's fondness for drawing very wide punches, what kind of a boss Doom is, the light in the movie The Lighthouse, and the joys of abs and punching.