In this inspiring and info-packed episode, Paul is joined by permaculture educator and perennial plant advocate Morag Gamble shares her wisdom on how to grow more food with less effort by designing your garden around perennials.

Morag walks us through the beauty and benefits of perennial gardens—from soil regeneration to biodiversity, resilience, and ease of care. She unpacks how shifting from annual-based gardening to perennial-based systems can make gardening more peaceful, abundant, and sustainable. You’ll also hear how her eco-village life at Crystal Waters influences her approach and how perennial gardens are the ultimate act of cooperation with nature.

This episode is brimming with practical tips, plant ideas, and philosophical reflections that will leave you itching to get outside and plant something that lasts a lifetime.

• What perennials are and why they matter in the garden
  
  

• How perennial systems build soil and biodiversity
  
  

• Designing gardens that feed people, animals, pollinators—and the soil
  
  

• Morag’s top perennial picks and planting strategies
  
  

• Integrating chickens and wildlife into perennial systems
  
  

• How perennial thinking reduces pests, supports resilience, and saves time
  
  

• Using layers, mosaic planting, and composting in-place
  
  

• Edible shrubs, teas, root crops, and self-seeding wonders
  
  

• Designing edible "shrubberies," hedges, and food forests
  
  

• Pot gardening and tips for those with limited space
  
  

• Real talk on mistakes, soil love, and keeping things simple
  
  

• Perennials = Less Work, More Yield. Once established, they just keep giving.
  
  

• Start with the soil. Healthy soil means healthier, easier gardening.
  
  

• Design for diversity. Multiple layers and mixed planting help with pest control, moisture retention, and abundance.
  
  

• Work with nature. From chickens to wallabies, wildlife can be part of the garden ecosystem.
  
  

• Grow to share. Take cuttings, gift perennials, and spread the garden love.
  
  

• Instagram: @moraggamble

• YouTube: Our Permaculture Life

• Education & Courses: Permaculture Education Institute

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