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No matter your goals, Atomic Habits offers a proven framework for improving - every day. James Clear, one of the world's leading experts on habit formation, reveals practical strategies that will teach you exactly how to form good habits, break bad ones, and master the tiny behaviors that lead to remarkable results. If you're having trouble changing your habits, the problem isn't you. The problem is your system. Bad habits repeat themselves again and again not because you don't want to change, but because you have the wrong system for change.
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Awesome book!
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After a stint policing the rough streets of Kansas City, Missouri, Chris Voss joined the FBI, where his career as a hostage negotiator brought him face-to-face with a range of criminals, including bank robbers and terrorists. Reaching the pinnacle of his profession, he became the FBI's lead international kidnapping negotiator. Never Split the Difference takes you inside the world of high-stakes negotiations and into Voss' head.
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Insightful and practical.
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War on Peace
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American diplomacy is under siege. Offices across the State Department sit empty while abroad, the military-industrial complex has assumed the work once undertaken by peacemakers. We're becoming a nation that shoots first and asks questions later. In an astonishing account ranging from Washington, DC, to Afghanistan, Pakistan, and North Korea in the years since 9/11, acclaimed journalist and former diplomat Ronan Farrow illuminates one of the most consequential and poorly understood changes in American history.
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Ronan Farrow is immensely competent
- Écrit par Macie le 2018-09-13
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Tools and Weapons
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Microsoft President Brad Smith operates by a simple core belief: When your technology changes the world, you bear a responsibility to help address the world you have helped create. This might seem uncontroversial, but it flies in the face of a tech sector long obsessed with rapid growth and sometimes on disruption as an end in itself. While sweeping digital transformation holds great promise, we have reached an inflection point. The world has turned information technology into both a powerful tool and a formidable weapon.
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Loved it
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Something Deeply Hidden
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Sean Carroll, theoretical physicist and one of this world’s most celebrated writers on science, rewrites the history of 20th-century physics. Already hailed as a masterpiece, Something Deeply Hidden shows for the first time that facing up to the essential puzzle of quantum mechanics utterly transforms how we think about space and time. His reconciling of quantum mechanics with Einstein’s theory of relativity changes, well, everything. Most physicists haven’t even recognized the uncomfortable truth: Physics has been in crisis since 1927.
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In another world, this review is much better.
- Écrit par Brad Mills le 2019-11-26
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An NPR Best Book of the Year - 2019
Edward Snowden, the man who risked everything to expose the US government’s system of mass surveillance, reveals for the first time the story of his life, including how he helped to build that system and what motivated him to try to bring it down.
In 2013, 29-year-old Edward Snowden shocked the world when he broke with the American intelligence establishment and revealed that the United States government was secretly pursuing the means to collect every single phone call, text message, and email. The result would be an unprecedented system of mass surveillance with the ability to pry into the private lives of every person on earth. Six years later, Snowden reveals for the very first time how he helped to build this system and why he was moved to expose it.
Spanning the bucolic Beltway suburbs of his childhood and the clandestine CIA and NSA postings of his adulthood, Permanent Record is the extraordinary account of a bright young man who grew up online - a man who became a spy, a whistleblower, and, in exile, the internet’s conscience. Written with wit, grace, passion, and an unflinching candor, Permanent Record is a crucial memoir of our digital age and destined to be a classic.
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- Nate
- 2019-09-27
Just Magnificent
I picked up this book with a vague idea of Edward Snowden as a significant figure in the battle to preserve humanities right to privacy in our everyday lives. Upon its completion, I understand how much of an understatement that is. If anyone interested in learning about the relationship between individuals and the state is reading this and having second thoughts about buying this book, think a third time and take the plunge. Permanent Record is not only highly enjoyable, but highly informative and enlightening in a variety if fields.
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- Utilisateur anonyme
- 2019-09-24
Incredible
EVERYONE should get this book.?ESPECIALLY if you tend to think people question a governments motives too much. For any reason however mundane.
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- Corby Berry
- 2019-12-04
the most important work I've ever read
Snowden is the hero of the information age. this book is vital to democracy.
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- Peter
- 2019-12-03
The most important book of our time.
Buy this book. Read or listen to it. Share it or better encourage others to do the same.
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- Vita
- 2019-11-28
Could not finish it
I can't pin it down to what didn't work for me in this book. The narration was engaging enough, and the book had some interesting stories, but not interesting enough to make me want to finish it.
I was expecting to trade my time and attention for an insight and information. However, the insight and information about the system (what I was looking for) was sparse and mostly the book dealt with justifications and reasons for the author's actions. I didn't feel that the little interesting bits I was getting were worth my attention.
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- Greg C
- 2019-11-27
Keeping the Headlines Relavent
Awesome. Great to know Ed is doing well, all things considered. This book goes into detail about the long process and struggles he had to deal with for the benefit of humanity. Infowars.com
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- Utilisateur anonyme
- 2019-11-26
Interesting
Haven't finished it but I find it interesting so far, pretty cool to hear his experience with the earlier days of the internet, and how the internet has changed since the 90's. I am looking forward to hearing the rest.
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- Raz-R
- 2019-11-23
Awesome
Lot better than the movie, not as good as the documentary but if you enjoyed those you will love that book, my first non stop/one shot read book
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- Tia
- 2019-11-22
Amazing
From the actual words to the narration this has easily become one of my favourites. I cried, I laughed, I learned waaaay more than I did after watching the movie. I would highly recommend this audio book.
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- Josh Van Koll
- 2019-11-21
very entertaining and informative
great book would absolutely reccomend to anyone. Snowden is a surprisingly good writer and keeps you interested every chapter.
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- VR
- 2019-12-02
Snowden's story
I really enjoyed reading Snowden's account of his story, especially the details regarding his revelation and subsequent "escape" to Russia. His telling is extremely believable and being born around the same time and having seen the boom of internet, his quick professional ascension and the time the institutions took to catch up (relying on young unexperienced but tech-savy kids) is very real. That's how it went around.
That said, I'd like to research a bit further the chronological line and some facts, but mass surveillance does exist and the line between national security and individual privacy can be very thin. I think this subject should be discussed openly and citizens should be informed and have a saying in the way their data is collected and processed.
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- Ryan L
- 2019-09-22
Great (if incomplete) account
I don't agree with everything Snowden did, and I don't know how complete this book is about his motivations and actions, but even with those caveats, it's an excellent book.
The most interesting aspect for me was not the factual description of what he did (although there are some never-before-read details), but his mindset and motivation to choose to betray the NDAs and chain of command while (possibly) honoring the oath of service. The technical details about his archiving system (it basically crawled a bunch of the published-within-IC sources and then indexed them, republishing for internal use, which allowed him perfect cover for exfiltration...) were still interesting, of course. That NSA had incredibly lax internal security and compartmentalization in the 1993-2013 period (due to losing all the cold war people and replacing them with...a specific demographic profile), CIA and State's technical incompetence, etc. are all pretty well supported by evidence. (Incidentally, the technical jack of all trades at CIA job sounds pretty amazing.)
Least expected angle was just how impressive his wife is. NSA's initial angle was "stripper", which brings a whole set of assumptions. However, this was pretty clearly inaccurate -- she's an intelligent and thoughtful person (although not involved in Snowden's exfiltration of data or escape), and based on actions since the incident (moving to Russia, marrying Snowden a year later, ...), seems
His descriptions of contracting culture and the gov/contractor split, hypertrophy and metastasis of the IC and contractors, etc all are strongly supported by evidence (and my personal experience as a contractor with the government for several years).
What is missing, and calls into question the veracity of the whole account, is the exact process of deciding to do all of this. In the book, it was that he accidentally saw a STLW (Stellar Wind) document, related to one of the most morally and legally questionable programs post-Church conducted by the USG (and for which individuals should be prosecuted and likely hanged), then just started searching for and consuming information for his own education (to see if these programs really existed), and only then decided to leak. That's possible, but it's not strongly supported. The mysterious occurrence of epilepsy around this time which motivated him to spend time on self-reflection and switching to a role with less of everything except access to this data, etc. seems a bit too convenient. This is the one area where I'm still a bit suspicious of the whole affair (either that an external power was involved, or that other NSA insiders supported him), but the story as told could also be the truth -- it's just difficult or impossible to validate.
Overall, one of the best books about the complex and evolving interplay between young, relatively powerless individuals who have technical competence and thus effective technical control over large institutions like government vs. the official power structures, the failures of USG/IC, and one of the biggest news stories in civil liberties since the 1970s.
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- Franklin S Werren
- 2019-09-20
Who should read
Every American should read this book and see what our secret agencies are doing. Edward Snowden is a hero in my eyes and people who lie should not even be in government. Some should be in jail for their lies to Congress.
Thank you Ed Snowden, an American Patriot!
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- Linda
- 2019-10-01
BRILLIANT
Mr Snowdon’s courage is by itself impressive, and his eloquence and explanations are as well. I wish this could be mandatory reading for every high school/ college student. Also, if i had a zillion dollars i would stand on the street in DC, where i live and hand a copy to everyone! Thank you for sharing your narrative! (PS I am 75 years old..)
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- Rick
- 2019-09-20
good but short
it was a little bit too truncated for me. I really would have liked to know what happened with him and his wife since he's been in Russia
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- Utilisateur anonyme
- 2019-09-19
A Snowden always answers the call of duty
Edward Snowden has always preferred the life of relative anonymity, but in this book, he really goes into great detail about the fascinated life he has lived and what led up to the biggest intelligence scandal in history. The book is divided into 3 parts, Part 1 is his childhood, how he got interested in technology and how he used his brain to do as little school work as possible, part 2 is professional life, his short army career and how he got to learn about the U.S mass surveillance as early as 2009, and part 3 is about his life on Hawaii and what led up to and his life after turning whistleblower. An operation that may or may not has involved the Rubix cube on his desk. The book narrator the incredible Holter Graham does an amazing job bringing his words and stories to life and I really started to feel Snowdens paranoia and techno-skepticism when he went on about smart-fridges, credit cards, phones, and traffic cameras, how all the metadata can be used to track you and how most of society is completely okay with it because "They have nothing to hide". The book takes a deep-dive in the societal contract of surveillance we have all agreed to and makes clear that it's only going to be worse unless we start dealing with the problem. Snowden tells his side of the story with wit, profound thoughts and a self-awareness most of us can only dream of. Reading the book makes it becomes painfully clear that he is one of our greatest martyrs against the powers of corporate and governmental espionage, and makes you wish that there were more people like Snowden out there willing to answer the call of duty, even when the enemy is less traditional than the ones we read about in history books.
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- Lisa
- 2019-09-20
A Must Read!
Couldn't recommend this book more strongly. Well written and most interesting and full of stuff we all need to know and be aware of. Eternally grateful to Mr.Snowden for his sacrifice.
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- Raul Duran
- 2019-09-20
Amazing book!
Amazing book! Each chapter better than the last. I admit my eyes got teary on the last chapter. Hope to one day see you and thank you for your sacrifice!
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- Dan - Atlanta
- 2019-09-18
Picked up the book to support Snowden
General speaking the media and the government get it wrong. Hero? I'd like my privacy back.... They tend to kill the messenger prior to naming streets after him. How many MLK and Kennedy BLVD's do we have in America? Buy the book it's a good read and a vote in dollars for a man who has courage. I respect him he deserves support.
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- Ginny
- 2019-09-18
Verified and congrats
While Snowden was active I was living a parallel life with similar understandings of privacy invasions by government, corporation, and rich individuals. Taking my own steps to secure privacy on a global scale for everyone. I refused getting gov't clearance many times so I never saw the stuff that he directly observed but that I knew existed, because I could directly observe the tell-tale signals that it did exist. I can say with great confidence that I believe Snowden is a patriot and has served the United States Constitution well. It is sad that so many people do not understand how the United States came to be. I highly recommend George Washington's Last Farewell to anybody who wants to understand just how well the country's founders knew what they were doing. George Washington gave us four things not to do, and now, and now, we persist in doing them all. Snowden should be seen as a light of reason in a digital world of unfettered deceit about constitutionally protected invasions of privacy we have long known are essential to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I thank him for this book as his permanent record.
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- Amazon Customer
- 2019-09-18
REAL American Patriot
Excellent story, he captures nuanced life as well as technical detail. God bless Edward Snowden.
liberty == privacy
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