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The Name of the Rose

Auteur(s): Umberto Eco,William Weaver - translator
Narrateur(s): Sean Barrett,Neville Jason,Nicholas Rowe
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The international best seller! A masterful gothic thriller set against the turbulence of medieval Italy.

The year is 1327. Franciscans in a wealthy Italian abbey are suspected of heresy, and Brother William of Baskerville arrives to investigate. But his delicate mission is suddenly overshadowed by seven bizarre deaths that take place in seven days and nights of apocalyptic terror.

Brother William turns detective, and a uniquely deft one at that. His tools are the logic of Aristotle, the theology of Aquinas, the empirical insights of Roger Bacon - all sharpened to a glistening edge by his wry humor and ferocious curiosity. He collects evidence, deciphers secret symbols and coded manuscripts, and digs into the eerie labyrinth of the abbey where "the most interesting things happen at night".

As Brother William goes about unraveling the mystery of what happens at the abbey by day and by night, listeners step into a brilliant re-creation of the 14th century, with its dark superstitions and wild prejudices, its hidden passions and sordid intrigues. Virtuoso storyteller Umberto Eco conjures up a gloriously rich portrait of this world with such grace, ease, wit, and love that you will become utterly intoxicated with the place and time.

©1980 Gruppo Editoriale Fabbri-Bompiani, Snzogno, Etas S.p.A.; English Translation ©1983 by Harcourt Brace & Company and Martin Secker & Warburg Limited (P)2013 Naxos AudioBooks

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This Fransican brother recommends it!

One of the best books I've ever listened to. the accuracy to the people times places philosophies and spiritualities is unparalleled in my reading. I studied this era in my undergrad and I am a Franciscan brother. I recommend this book.

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Watch the movie!!

This is one of those rare occasions where I think the movie is superior to the book. Besides, I liked the ending in the movie a heck of a lot better than the ending in the book.
Umberto Eco has got to be one of the most verbose authors I've ever encountered. Characters spout endless diatribes, lists and enumerations, which frankly get overwhelming and boring on more than one occasion. In addition, Latin and some German passages are strewn throughout.
The narrator did a superb job for the most part, but butchered the German passages beyond recognition.
It was a good thing that I decided to listen to the audio book - I would NEVER have made it through the original written version!

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better off reading it

This was agony and I could not finish. I read this once in high school and I didn't hate it, I just wished there were translations or footnotes. I still wish that. I still didn't hate it, but wow, the experience of listening to this verbose behemoth is way different from reading it. It really highlights just how much talk/philosophy and how little action there is. I listened at 2.5 speed. It was still a painful marathon.
It's a classic for a reason, but not for its mystery plot.

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An amazingly intricate book (about books about boo

I first listened to the audio book 20 years ago. It was a different narrator, and I listened to it multiple times. Sadly, audible did not carry that version, which was what I thought I was purchasing (it was listed as being by the other narrator and was switched upon purchase).
So I listened to this version. It was good. I disagreed with some of the Latin pronounciations, but otherwise I enjoyed it.
The story itself is worth listening to many times over. This book is almost better read to you, then read yourself, as it tends to wax eloquent with many lists.

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For students of medieval history and religion

This book sold very well, but I can't imagine that all buyers finished reading it. It is an extremely detailed slog through the religious and philosophical controversies of the age, draped over a thin murder mystery which is supposed to hold your interest. Be prepared for interminable speeches over arcane philosophical/religious controversies. As an audible heard thru my exercise walks it was bearable. Do investigate whether this book is for you.

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  • Ryan
  • 2014-02-14

The meaning of the mystery & mystery of meaning

On the surface, Umberto Eco's classic, The Name of the Rose, is a whodunit mystery set in a monastery in 14th century Italy. A perspicacious monk named William of Baskerville (an obvious nod) and his young assistant, Adso, who narrates the story as a much older man, arrive at the monastery, the scene of mysterious murders. Given that delegations from the Pope and Emperor, whose theologies have schismed, are about to arrive for a conference, and the air is already tense, William must get the root of the foul deeds. And, so, he puts to use his well-honed powers of observation and deduction in pursuit of ultimate causes. For, soon, an inquisitor will be arriving and things will get uncomfortable.

However, it's the turbulent 14th century, and ultimate causes may not be so clear, given the differing schools of thought on the nature of good and evil, sin and salvation, power and poverty, or reason versus superstition that embroil Christendom. At its core, TNTR is a philosophical and somewhat challenging book. Eco isn't afraid to pause the action and throw ideas at the reader, or look backwards in time and trace the evolution of different heretical Christian orders. Though these elements are a little confusing at first, if the reader is patient, it becomes clear that many of the themes are timeless and familiar.

This book is really a meditation on symbols and their meaning, the way ideas in our minds seek but never quite grasp the underlying reality, thus creating new ones. When does heresy stray from orthodoxy and become heresy, and what does each really mean? When does commitment to poverty become an act of violent revolution? What defines the line between sexuality that is good and sexuality that is a sin? How long do names, memories, and ideas hold onto an essence of something, when that thing is gone? When does reason lead us to answers, and when do our efforts to see through illusion create their own illusions? Is God simply the ultimate symbol, and what fearsome truth do we uncover in trying to peer beyond the veil?

To me, these rich questions (which will probably bore the heck out of readers who have no interest in philosophy or medieval theology) made for a moving read. Gradually, the riddles of the story build: a library filled with secrets, a close-mouthed gatekeeper, a labyrinth (see wikipedia for a map), a mysterious book, a prophetic figure, and trysts and twists in the dark of night. The murders, as they take place, point to the signs of the Apocalypse from the Book of Revelations. And, indeed, the story does build to a kind of apocalypse, filled with symbolism that I found quite brilliant, even as it calls into question all symbols. I won't hint at what Eco places behind the final seals, but to me, the best endings are the ones that both meet your expectations and surprise you, and I think he pulled that off.

If you're looking for an accessible thriller similar to the Da Vinci Code, don't bother. This novel is for people who want to fully engage their brains, and don't mind a bit of rereading to make sense of the pieces. Fans of Neal Stephenson’s Anathem, which has a lot of parallels, or of David Mitchell, might want to check this book out. It’s a little more “literary” than the works of both those authors, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had been an influence on them.

To audible listeners, I should let you know that the various problems with the download and recording described by others seem to have been cleaned up. There was some faint background noise in part 3, but nothing that bothered me.

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  • Darwin8u
  • 2014-01-17

Mortification of the Ears or "Redde mihi credita"

Mortification of the Ears, or
An unwholesome penance,
or an idle silence... or
"Redde mihi credita"

A couple days ago I called Audible to complain that they only had 2 out of 3 sections of the Unabridged 'Name of the Rose' audiobook available. Nothing is more disappointing than enjoying a listen and realizing that the last 6 hours of the book have gone missing. I remember once reading a novel in which my sister, as a joke, had removed the last couple pages. It was like that but more Kafkaesque. Then: I called complained, they refunded, I waited, they fixed/resurrected, I repurchased, I continued listening ... but the production quality was bad (not wicked bad or evil bad just slothful bad).

Second only to being flagellated by not having a whole book is realizing the missing piece is poorly produced. I could hear voices (NO, not those voices), like someone forgot to close the recording door and in a room down the hall someone else was having an office party at Macmillan Audio. Perhaps there was even cake. I couldn't tell if there was cake, but it sure sounded fun that background talking behind the narration of the book. Ugh.

As far as the book: Brilliant. Eco is amazing (Großer Eco, wir loben dich). But unless you NEED to listen to this, I'd skip it. GO buy the book and read it because Brother Umberto deserves better than the audiomonks at the Abbey of Macmillan.

Just don't read it outloud with a party down the hall, or at least shut the hidden d___ door. Go enjoy this book in silence.

Pax, pax tibi,

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  • Christopher D. Williams
  • 2014-02-26

Technical Problems Solved

For those reviews complaining that the third part of the audio book is not available, or about the production values - those are solved. At least I didn't have those problems. Upon purchase I had all 3 parts available for download. Having listened to the book twice now (the whole entire thing), I have not noticed any production problems with background noise or "voices like a party down the hall" or a "studio door open". I don't know if those were draft edits or a pre-release product or what, but the technical problems are solved.

I loved that all the characters had a separate voice, as narrated by the actor. That made following the action much easier for me. I used this version instead of the paperback book for a college class. I found that the book and the audiobook read word for word, and I could listen to the audio book while commuting.

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  • Carole T.
  • 2015-11-16

Mother of All Intellectual, Relligious Mysteries

Whew! I just finished this long, long and satisfying ride! Experiencing through Audible an old favorite can be a lesson in the changes in one's life and in current attitudes that bring about changes in taste and appreciation of certain books.

Not so here. Umberto Eco's fantastic library mystery holds up well through the years and the topics that matter in our world. Because, in "The Name of the Rose", the intelligent puzzle is just a part of the whole - and this is definitely a holistic work!

My favorite diversion-from-the-main-plot (and there are lots to choose from) concerns the issue of Jesus's poverty. What to most of us is self-evident in Christianity becomes a tangled and complex argument about wealth and power. It's a delicious look into the mind of the Medieval Catholic hierarchy, and it reads very true for a fictional account. You see, if Jesus was poor and advised his followers to be also, then how can the Church justify the grand cathedrals, the rich trappings of the priests, the accumulation of fortunes in art and relics? If Jesus was poor and separated himself from worldly concerns, how can Popes pretend to rival the Dukes and Kings for political power and influence? So, maybe Jesus did carry a purse - and the determination of this question means literally life or death for whole sects of Christians in the age of the Inquisitions!

Topics so relevant to our time crop up everywhere in this book. Major debates about religious fanaticism, intolerance, and misogyny are presented in ways that fascinate rather than bore. The characters represent these differing points of view in frighteningly realistic ways, and the exchange of arguments makes for challenging and intelligent involvement by the reader/listener.

I'm not sure how much I was hearing of which of these narrators, but they are all to be commended. I loved the different voices and the emotions conveyed.

This book is worth revisiting - or enjoying for the first time in its Audio version!

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  • George
  • 2014-04-05

Lose Yourself in the Ancient Library

First off, all of the problems with the downloading have been fixed. The whole recording is flawless. The narrator has the perfect voice for the character of an aging monk in the middle ages. Parts of the book are dry. I can imagine many people would have trouble listening through the exposition on theology and politics. But if you get the gist of these, you do not need to get every detail to know what is going on. This is definitely a mystery novel, but its an academic mystery. It is a book to listen to at night. It has a great payoff.

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  • Ellenaeddy
  • 2016-02-04

Thank God! Not Abridged!

My favorite very odd mystery. They finally did an unabridged version of it and it is a delight. Treat yourself to a view of heretics, saints, and sinners in a world where the only thing that matters is books. I love this!

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  • monique
  • 2014-03-10

Brilliant!

For all the book readers who feared a disappointing rendition to this (arguably best ever) book--a wonderful and accessible interpretation, with unsurpassed narration. Bravo!

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  • W Perry Hall
  • 2014-01-06

stops at a little over 3/5 of the book

How can an audio publisher claim a book is unabridged, then stop at page 309 of 501 pages (in print)? Just stop.... Is it arrogance? I tend to doubt it since the narrators and studio and publishing rights must be met to at least break even. Is it pomposity? Again, I doubt this because this is not lite lit for lemmings and we don't care for being misled, and will write a review like this to dissuade others from such duping! I guess it's carelessness and it's rather sad.

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  • David J. Cutler
  • 2014-01-06

Incomplete

What would have made The Name of the Rose better?

The audiobook is approximately 21 hours. Only the first 12 hours are available in this download. The book would have been MUCH better had it all been available.

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  • Jason V.
  • 2016-07-12

Better read than listened to...

This was a very interesting and fun murder mystery, very much in the style of Sherlock Holmes novels. The medieval Catholic philosophy and theology is fascinating and detailed, but it can be hard to focus on some of the diatribes when one is listening to it rather than reading it. The story doesn't really become compelling until day three, so stick with it until then.

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