On this episode, Dr. Robin Stern welcomes Dr. Dacher Keltner — UC Berkeley psychologist, founding director of the Greater Good Science Center, and leading expert on the science of awe. Together, they explore how cultivating moral beauty — the recognition of kindness, courage, humility, and justice — can counter the harm of gaslighting and the moral ugliness that fuels polarization and disconnection.

Drawing from his acclaimed book, Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life, Dr. Keltner shares groundbreaking research on how moments of wonder can lower inflammation, improve cardiovascular health, reduce anxiety and depression, and help us recover from pain and even long COVID. He offers practical, accessible ways to experience awe daily — from connecting with strangers and engaging with art to spending time in nature and reviving cultural traditions that inspire compassion.

The conversation moves from personal stories of loss and resilience to global initiatives like “Cities of Awe”, museum partnerships, and educational programs designed to bring more beauty and connection into our lives. Whether you’re looking for strategies to heal from manipulation or ways to strengthen community bonds, this episode offers a research-backed roadmap for living with more meaning, openness, and joy.

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