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  • Episode 43 Please Send Us An RV

    Episode 43 Please Send Us An RV
    Sep 17 2025

    Just for a refresher (or for those new to the podcast), Vickie and Josh review their published works, their offered services, and their plans for Self Publishing Month. Also, check out our cool black backdrop. Pretty sweet, huh?


    (0:20) Starting over

    (2:30) Who we are

    (21:30) Marketing your books

    (28:50) Podcasting

    (36:10) Social media

    (42:10) Consultations

    (48:35) Final Thoughts

    Visit our website:selfpublishednl.comBooksHow to Fail at Documentary FilmmakingKindlehttps://amzn.to/4eIX7PgPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/407Hef1Audiblehttps://amzn.to/40FaI40For the Grace of Joehttps://amzn.to/4l9xQzYPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/44CrYs7Audiblehttps://amzn.to/4koVAioHow to Be a Famous Sexy WriterKindlehttps://amzn.to/3GBKUyZPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4nzkMp4A Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing PaperbacksKindlehttps://amzn.to/44i8zxBPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3IhDeCyA Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing eBooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/4lIeqlJPaperbackshttps://amzn.to/4nDyOWUA Bare Bones Guide to Marketing Self Published BooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/46suF1OPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3GpQdBGHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing Paperbacks with companion colouring pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/45Z2WWjHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/45ZuTxcHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing eBooks with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4lKM9LfHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/3TpQSWLHow to Fail: A Guide to Marketing Self Published Books with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/40CKwHiHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/40HIaqBMulberry Creek EP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mulberrycreek.bandcamp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Gear we use to make this podcast:90D Canon DSLR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4fAggT5⁠⁠⁠SM7B⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3ZeI8X7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MV7X USB⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40TpkOg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Interface⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OibMV6⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Softbox light kit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OgSLSR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookcase backdrop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3CTm0IS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Backdrop Support Stand⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/499YHqE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edited on Adobe Premiere Pro 2025
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    57 min
  • Episode 42 The Creative Journey

    Episode 42 The Creative Journey
    Sep 10 2025
    Self Publishing Month is right around the corner! There are some exciting things happening this October, like workshops, signings, and our Open Book event! This week, Josh and Vickie talk preparations, politics, and keeping yourself on a creative journey.(1:18) Self Publishing Month(21:27) New song(26:45) Politics Corner(51:30) The Creative Journey(59:15) Final ThoughtsVisit our website:selfpublishednl.comBooksHow to Fail at Documentary FilmmakingKindlehttps://amzn.to/4eIX7PgPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/407Hef1Audiblehttps://amzn.to/40FaI40For the Grace of Joehttps://amzn.to/4l9xQzYPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/44CrYs7Audiblehttps://amzn.to/4koVAioHow to Be a Famous Sexy WriterKindlehttps://amzn.to/3GBKUyZPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4nzkMp4A Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing PaperbacksKindlehttps://amzn.to/44i8zxBPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3IhDeCyA Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing eBooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/4lIeqlJPaperbackshttps://amzn.to/4nDyOWUA Bare Bones Guide to Marketing Self Published BooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/46suF1OPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3GpQdBGHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing Paperbacks with companion colouring pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/45Z2WWjHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/45ZuTxcHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing eBooks with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4lKM9LfHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/3TpQSWLHow to Fail: A Guide to Marketing Self Published Books with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/40CKwHiHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/40HIaqBMulberry Creek EP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mulberrycreek.bandcamp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Gear we use to make this podcast:90D Canon DSLR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4fAggT5⁠⁠⁠SM7B⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3ZeI8X7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MV7X USB⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40TpkOg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Interface⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OibMV6⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Softbox light kit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OgSLSR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookcase backdrop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3CTm0IS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Backdrop Support Stand⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/499YHqE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edited on Adobe Premiere Pro 2025
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    1 h et 5 min
  • Episode 41 Soup In The Oven

    Episode 41 Soup In The Oven
    Sep 3 2025
    This week Vickie and Josh talk about internet trolls, successful marketing ideas, Self Publishing Month, and a brand new song! We're keeping it short though, because we gotta go get some soup.(0:15) Cleaning out the cupboards(3:45) Just keep scrolling(14:41) Self Publishing Month(22:47) Marketing success(28:30) Self Publishing music(47:33) New song!(52:17) Final thoughtsVisit our website:selfpublishednl.comBooksHow to Fail at Documentary FilmmakingKindlehttps://amzn.to/4eIX7PgPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/407Hef1Audiblehttps://amzn.to/40FaI40For the Grace of Joehttps://amzn.to/4l9xQzYPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/44CrYs7Audiblehttps://amzn.to/4koVAioHow to Be a Famous Sexy WriterKindlehttps://amzn.to/3GBKUyZPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4nzkMp4A Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing PaperbacksKindlehttps://amzn.to/44i8zxBPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3IhDeCyA Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing eBooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/4lIeqlJPaperbackshttps://amzn.to/4nDyOWUA Bare Bones Guide to Marketing Self Published BooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/46suF1OPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3GpQdBGHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing Paperbacks with companion colouring pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/45Z2WWjHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/45ZuTxcHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing eBooks with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4lKM9LfHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/3TpQSWLHow to Fail: A Guide to Marketing Self Published Books with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/40CKwHiHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/40HIaqBMulberry Creek EP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mulberrycreek.bandcamp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Gear we use to make this podcast:90D Canon DSLR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4fAggT5⁠⁠⁠SM7B⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3ZeI8X7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MV7X USB⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40TpkOg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Interface⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OibMV6⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Softbox light kit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OgSLSR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookcase backdrop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3CTm0IS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Backdrop Support Stand⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/499YHqE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edited on Adobe Premiere Pro 2025
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    57 min
  • Episode 40 So Much Art, So Much Culture

    Episode 40 So Much Art, So Much Culture
    Aug 27 2025

    Self Publishing Month is coming up real soon, and there are some big plans in the works! There will be workshops and an Open Book Event, and even a new location to host it all! Stay tuned for all the wild updates!


    (1:10) New Books

    (8:12) Self Publishing Month!

    (23:52) Open Book Events

    (29:23) Workshops

    (33:20) Social Media and Libraries

    (45:18) Final Thoughts

    Visit our website:selfpublishednl.comBooksHow to Fail at Documentary FilmmakingKindlehttps://amzn.to/4eIX7PgPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/407Hef1Audiblehttps://amzn.to/40FaI40For the Grace of Joehttps://amzn.to/4l9xQzYPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/44CrYs7Audiblehttps://amzn.to/4koVAioHow to Be a Famous Sexy WriterKindlehttps://amzn.to/3GBKUyZPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4nzkMp4A Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing PaperbacksKindlehttps://amzn.to/44i8zxBPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3IhDeCyA Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing eBooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/4lIeqlJPaperbackshttps://amzn.to/4nDyOWUA Bare Bones Guide to Marketing Self Published BooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/46suF1OPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3GpQdBGHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing Paperbacks with companion colouring pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/45Z2WWjHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/45ZuTxcHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing eBooks with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4lKM9LfHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/3TpQSWLHow to Fail: A Guide to Marketing Self Published Books with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/40CKwHiHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/40HIaqBMulberry Creek EP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mulberrycreek.bandcamp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Gear we use to make this podcast:90D Canon DSLR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4fAggT5⁠⁠⁠SM7B⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3ZeI8X7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MV7X USB⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40TpkOg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Interface⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OibMV6⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Softbox light kit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OgSLSR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookcase backdrop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3CTm0IS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Backdrop Support Stand⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/499YHqE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edited on Adobe Premiere Pro 2025
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    53 min
  • Episode 39 High School Reunion

    Episode 39 High School Reunion
    Aug 20 2025

    Vickie went to a high school reunion this week and let Josh tag along. There was a lot of love in the room. And a big announcement for the Are You Mad At Me? Podcast!


    (0:44) Trying some different things

    (2:30) Writing religious songs

    (9:11) High school reunion

    (17:00) Joe moments

    (35:00) Stress relief

    (38:00) High school memories

    (47:27) Number One Podcast!

    (48:40) Self Publishing Month

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    54 min
  • Episode 38 A Light Green Shirt

    Episode 38 A Light Green Shirt
    Aug 13 2025
    Vickie and Josh talk about dealing with the government, rejected passport applications, new books, and washing colours with whites.(00:46) Laundry fail(3:41) Forest fires(8:27) Are You Mad At Me? segment(37:22) Passports update(47:50) Self Publishing Corner(59:36) Book promos(1:16:11) Final Thoughts (featuring Paula)Visit our website:selfpublishednl.comBooksHow to Fail at Documentary FilmmakingKindlehttps://amzn.to/4eIX7PgPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/407Hef1Audiblehttps://amzn.to/40FaI40For the Grace of Joehttps://amzn.to/4l9xQzYPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/44CrYs7Audiblehttps://amzn.to/4koVAioHow to Be a Famous Sexy WriterKindlehttps://amzn.to/3GBKUyZPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4nzkMp4A Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing PaperbacksKindlehttps://amzn.to/44i8zxBPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3IhDeCyA Bare Bones Guide to Self Publishing eBooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/4lIeqlJPaperbackshttps://amzn.to/4nDyOWUA Bare Bones Guide to Marketing Self Published BooksKindlehttps://amzn.to/46suF1OPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/3GpQdBGHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing Paperbacks with companion colouring pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/45Z2WWjHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/45ZuTxcHow to Fail: A Guide to Self Publishing eBooks with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/4lKM9LfHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/3TpQSWLHow to Fail: A Guide to Marketing Self Published Books with companion learning pages because learning is hardPaperbackhttps://amzn.to/40CKwHiHardcoverhttps://amzn.to/40HIaqBMulberry Creek EP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mulberrycreek.bandcamp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Gear we use to make this podcast:90D Canon DSLR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4fAggT5⁠⁠⁠SM7B⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3ZeI8X7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MV7X USB⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40TpkOg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Interface⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OibMV6⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Softbox light kit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OgSLSR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookcase backdrop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3CTm0IS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Backdrop Support Stand⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/499YHqE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edited on Adobe Premiere Pro 2025
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    1 h et 22 min
  • Episode 37 Write Another Book

    Episode 37 Write Another Book
    Aug 6 2025
    Camping in a tent in the backyard, going to a speaking engagement, putting the books on all the platforms, and why self publishing is hard. Between marketing and sales, Vickie and Josh have a lot of fun stuff going on!(2:40) Yard camping(9:55) Marketing meet-up(26:00) Effort vs. Results(40:15) Publishing on more platforms(58:50) The podcast on public access(1:06:28) Final ThoughtsVisit our website:selfpublishednl.comBooksHow to Fail at Documentary FilmmakingKindle⁠https://amzn.to/43dlzE5⁠Audiobook⁠https://amzn.to/3EXXsjr⁠Paperback⁠https://amzn.to/3SooVxM⁠⁠⁠⁠For the Grace of JoeKindle⁠https://amzn.to/4d0jkqS⁠Audiobook⁠https://amzn.to/4iI0F4p⁠Paperback⁠https://amzn.to/3YZs7DO⁠Mulberry Creek EP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mulberrycreek.bandcamp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Gear we use to make this podcast:90D Canon DSLR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4fAggT5⁠⁠⁠SM7B⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3ZeI8X7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MV7X USB⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40TpkOg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Interface⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OibMV6⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Softbox light kit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3OgSLSR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookcase backdrop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3CTm0IS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Backdrop Support Stand⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/499YHqE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edited on Adobe Premiere Pro 2025
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    1 h et 10 min
  • Episode 36 Regatta Week

    Episode 36 Regatta Week
    Jul 30 2025

    Vickie and Josh have a whole lot of publishing going on. There's audiobooks, new platforms, and speaking engagements! And it's a quick one because there's banana bread in the oven.

    (3:55) Get Josh some coffee

    (6:44) The multilinguals

    (14:40) This week in publishing

    (28:04) Reformatting "For the Grace of Joe"

    (43:50) Famous Sexy Writers Club

    (49:35) Final Thoughts

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    1 h et 2 min