Ever wondered what truly drives inclusive workplaces beyond the policies and tick-box exercises? HR expert Vicky Campbell joins us for a candid conversation about creating environments where everyone genuinely belongs.

Vicky cuts through corporate jargon to address what's often missing in diversity conversations: "We talk about diversity, we talk about inclusion, but the equity path is obviously where the magic happens." She challenges the notion that organisations are "done" with DEI after implementing a few surface-level changes, arguing instead for ongoing, courageous conversations that foster psychological safety.

The discussion takes a deeply personal turn when exploring the return to work after parental leave. Drawing from her own experiences, Vicky highlights how employers often miss the mark by focusing on procedures rather than human connection. "Did I feel held? Did I feel cared for in a way that I would want to be cared for?" she asks, advocating for individualised approaches that recognise each parent's unique needs—especially for those with neurodiversity.

When tackling innovation and AI in HR, Vicky strikes a thoughtful balance. While embracing technology's efficiency benefits, she emphasises that human intuition remains irreplaceable: "I can sense things as a human and my instincts tell me to take the conversation in a certain way." Her insights on four-day workweeks are equally nuanced, warning that without proper boundaries, compressed schedules risk intensifying burnout rather than alleviating it.

Throughout our conversation, Vicky embodies her philosophy of "being the change you want to see," sharing how she established a community choir to foster connection and wellbeing. Her approach to HR—prioritising authenticity, psychological safety, and human connection—offers a refreshing alternative to corporate box-ticking.

How might your organisation benefit from focusing less on policies and more on creating environments where people truly feel seen and heard? Connect with Vicky on LinkedIn or through her Instagram page "Advanced Populous" to continue the conversation.

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IMPORTANT INFORMATION: This video is published by Trish Hewitt of Haylo HR HR. The information in this video is for general guidance only and, although the presenter believes it was correct at the time it was recorded (August 2025), the law may have changed since then. You should always seek your own legal advice. This advice adheres to employment law within England, Scotland and Wales.