In Episode 15 of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton welcome Adam Haleck, CEO of Northpoint Asset Management, for a deep dive into the world of property management and real estate leadership.

From his beginnings in American Samoa to building a nationwide presence in SFR and BTR, Adam shares his journey of resilience, growth, and what it takes to lead in today’s competitive real estate market. He opens up about the importance of building authentic connections, the role of technology in creating seamless resident experiences, and why transparency and accountability are essential for lasting success.

The conversation dives into how a winning culture is built—one that empowers teams, prioritizes resident satisfaction, and adapts to market challenges. Adam also reflects on the lessons learned from scaling Northpoint across multiple states and markets, proving that strong relationships remain at the heart of every business.

In a powerful closing segment, Patrick, Phillip, and Adam address the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. Together, they condemn political violence, share empathy for Charlie’s family, and highlight the urgent need for respectful dialogue in today’s divided world.

Whether you’re an investor, property manager, or simply passionate about the future of real estate, this episode delivers valuable lessons on leadership, culture, and the human side of business.

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In this heartfelt episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Phillip Burton and Patrick Osman, along with special guest Adam Haleck, honor Charlie Kirk and reflect on the tragic events that recently shook America. They discuss Charlie Kirk’s character, his commitment to healthy debate, and the importance of civil discourse, even amid strong disagreements.

From Utah’s conservative culture to lessons on personal responsibility, faith, and community response, this episode explores how tragedy can serve as a moment for reflection, unity, and growth.

💬 Topics Covered:

Charlie Kirk’s legacy and influence on civil debate
The line between words and violence in today’s society
How Utah responded to tragedy with calm and faith
Reflections on parenting, morality, and societal values

Join us as we honor a man who stood for dialogue, integrity, and inclusivity, even in disagreement.

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In Episode 14 of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Scott Tinkham, VP of Construction at ILE Homes, for a deep dive into the Single Family Rental (SFR) industry and what it takes to succeed in today’s market.

From his unexpected start in the limousine business to leading construction and rehab projects in real estate, Scott shares the lessons he’s learned about people, partnerships, and scaling in a competitive industry. The conversation explores everything from property management strategies and rehab decisions to why flooring choices like vinyl plank are changing the game.

Scott also opens up about the challenges of bidding at the courthouse, why market trends demand smarter investment decisions, and how building trust with contractors and vendors can make or break your success. Above all, he emphasizes that the future of SFR isn’t just about properties—it’s about relationships, transparency, and partnerships that last.

Whether you’re an investor, property manager, or just curious about the evolution of SFR and real estate construction, this episode is packed with insights on where the industry is headed and how to stay ahead.


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