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Beyond Substance

Beyond Substance

Auteur(s): Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller
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 Beyond Substance deepens the understanding of our listeners about substance use in Indiana, specifically the problems and solutions to address these issues and to highlight that there is hope and share what can be done to foster and support recovery in our community.Copyright Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller Développement personnel Hygiène et mode de vie sain Psychologie Psychologie et santé mentale Réussite Sciences sociales
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  • Finding Recovery Through Employee Assistance Programs

    Finding Recovery Through Employee Assistance Programs
    Nov 30 2025
    Hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore the human side of public safety in this moving episode of Beyond Substance. Brandon Dreiman, a retired Indianapolis firefighter and wellness coach, shares how peer support and employee assistance programs are breaking barriers to care for first responders. Jerry Richard, a veteran firefighter, opens up about his decades-long struggle with alcohol use, the toll it took on his life, and how recovery helped him reclaim purpose and connection. Together, their stories illuminate the vital role of lived experience, trauma-informed care, and trust-based support systems in healing public servants on the front lines.

    Segment 1: Professional Interview Summary
    Dean speaks with Brandon Dreiman, a 23-year veteran of the Indianapolis Fire Department and former wellness coordinator, now a recovery coach at Pro Team Wellness. Brandon outlines how peer support systems and employee assistance programs (EAPs) work—especially those tailored to public safety. He emphasizes the unique challenges first responders face, including elevated rates of PTSD and alcohol use disorder. Brandon shares data showing one in three firefighters may have diagnosable AUD, yet stigma and job culture still keep many from seeking help. Through first-hand insights, Brandon breaks down how trust, confidentiality, and peer-led connections can help bridge the gap between suffering and recovery.

    Segment 2: Personal Story Summary
    Jodi introduces Jerry Richard, a firefighter whose passion for service masked a private battle with addiction. From early marijuana use to years of secretive alcohol dependency, Jerry reflects on the personal and professional consequences of his substance use—and the moment when he finally asked for help. With honesty and humility, he shares the losses that pushed him back into substance use after a period of sobriety, and how peer support and breathwork therapy helped him begin again. Today, Jerry leads with compassion, offering others the same safe space and support that saved his own life.

    Takeaways
    • First responders experience high rates of trauma-related conditions, including PTSD and substance use disorder.
    • Alcohol use remains the most common—and most overlooked—issue in public safety professions.
    • Peer support programs, when backed by confidentiality and lived experience, are powerful tools for early intervention.
    • Recovery is possible—even for those who once believed it was out of reach.
    • Changing the culture starts with telling the truth: you're not alone, and help exists.

    Hashtags
    #BeyondSubstance #RecoveryIsPossible #FirstResponderWellness #PeerSupportWorks #EmployeeAssistance #PublicSafetyMentalHealth #TraumaInformedCare #StigmaFree #AlcoholUseDisorder #SubstanceUseRecovery #FirefighterMentalHealth #JodiMiller #DeanBabcock #ShawnPNeal #AdvoCast #AddictionRecovery #EAPSupport #PTSDRecovery #MentalHealthAwareness

    Podcast Information:
    • Hosted by: Dean Babcock & Jodi Miller
    • Interview Segment Producer: Angela Shamblin
    • Personal Story Producer: Shawn P Neal
    • Executive Producer: Shawn P Neal
    • Mixed at: AvoCast Studio236
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    53 min
  • When Schools Become a Part of Recovery

    When Schools Become a Part of Recovery
    Oct 31 2025
    In this episode, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore how schools play a critical role in shaping youth experiences with substance use, prevention, and recovery. John Ferguson, a licensed marriage and family therapist with decades of experience, shares how supportive school policies and family engagement can prevent escalation and foster resilience. Ted, a parent in recovery, offers a deeply personal look at how he and his family navigated his son’s high school substance use challenges—finding hope through compassionate educators, recovery resources, and open communication. Together, these conversations reveal how recovery for young people begins not with punishment, but with presence, understanding, and connection.

    Segment 1: Professional Interview – John Ferguson
    Dean speaks with John Ferguson, a licensed marriage and family therapist and manager of the Ascension St. Vincent School-Based Mental Health Program, about how school systems address substance use among students. Drawing from two decades of experience in both youth and adult treatment settings, John discusses the evolving landscape of school-based interventions—from traditional prevention and education to trauma-informed and family-integrated approaches.


    Segment 2: Personal Story – Ted’s Family Journey
    In a candid and heartfelt conversation, Ted shares how his own recovery journey became intertwined with his son’s struggle with substance use during high school. When his son began experimenting with marijuana and vaping, Ted and his wife faced a difficult path—navigating school policies, family emotions, and community stigma. What they found, however, was compassion and partnership from school counselors, coaches, and eventually, an alternative recovery school, Hope Academy, that helped their son rediscover purpose and stability.


    Takeaways
    • Supportive, comprehensive school policies—those that include prevention, counseling, and treatment—create better outcomes than punitive or zero-tolerance approaches.
    • Family engagement and advocacy are vital in addressing youth substance use; schools and parents are most effective when they work as partners.
    • Substance use often coexists with mental health challenges; trauma-informed teaching and early detection make a measurable difference.
    • Compassion, communication, and connection—not punishment—are the foundations of true prevention and recovery.


    Episode Hashtags
    #BeyondSubstance #AdvoCast #ShawnPNeal #DeanBabcock #JodiMiller #HopeAcademy #YouthRecovery #SubstanceUsePrevention #SchoolCounseling #TraumaInformedCare #MentalHealthMatters #FamilyRecovery #AddictionAwareness #RecoveryIsPossible #CommunityHealing #ParentingInRecovery #VapingAwareness #ZeroToleranceReform #SupportNotStigma #AdvoCastMedia

    Podcast Information:
    • Hosted by: Dean Babcock & Jodi Miller
    • Interview Segment Producer: Angela Shamblin
    • Personal Story Producer: Shawn P Neal
    • Executive Producer: Shawn P Neal
    • Mixed at: AvoCast Studio236
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    51 min
  • Season 2 Finale: Panel on Overdose Deaths- Progress and Challenges

    Season 2 Finale: Panel on Overdose Deaths- Progress and Challenges
    Sep 1 2025
    In the season two finale of Beyond Substance, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller bring together a panel of leaders working across Indiana to address the opioid epidemic. Joining the conversation are Jodi Miller (peer recovery leader and co-host), Sarah Grubb (Forensic Epidemiologist, Marion County Public Health Department), Dr. Eric Yazel (ER Physician and Indiana EMS Medical Director), and Justin Phillips (Founder of Overdose Lifeline). Together, they reflect on the progress made in reducing overdose deaths, examine data-driven insights and community initiatives, and highlight the ongoing challenges that demand attention. This roundtable brings multiple perspectives—clinical, public health, advocacy, and lived experience—into a collective call for continued collaboration, innovation, and hope.

    Takeaways
    • Naloxone access saves lives: Large-scale distribution and low-barrier access remain critical.
    • Bridge programs matter: Linking ER patients to long-term care improves outcomes and prevents relapse.
    • Data drives change: Real-time overdose surveillance helps communities respond quickly and effectively.
    • Peer support builds hope: Recovery coaches create essential trust and reduce stigma.
    • Equity is essential: Addressing racial and demographic disparities must remain a priority.

    Episode Hashtags
    #BeyondSubstance #OpioidEpidemic #RecoveryIsPossible #NaloxoneSavesLives #HarmReduction #SubstanceUseRecovery #EndOverdose #PeerRecovery #IndianaRecovery #CommunityHealth #DataDrivenSolutions #MAT #BridgeProgram #PublicHealth #Epidemiology #OverdoseLifeline #ShawnPNeal #AdvoCast #StigmaFree #HopeAndRecovery

    Podcast Information:
    • Hosted by: Dean Babcock & Jodi Miller
    • Interview Segment Producer: Angela Shamblin
    • Personal Story Producer: Shawn P Neal
    • Executive Producer: Shawn P Neal
    • Mixed at: AvoCast Studio236
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    59 min
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