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 Everyone wants to see children and young adults succeed in math, but it can be difficult to sort myths from facts in education. Join math professor, Anna Stokke, for conversations with leading educators and researchers about the importance of math, effective teaching methods, and debunking common myths about math and teaching. Chalk & Talk is a podcast for anyone interested in education, including educators, parents, and students.Copyright 2023 All rights reserved. Mathématique Science
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  • Balanced literacy didn’t work—will balanced math? with Ben Solomon (Ep 54)

    Balanced literacy didn’t work—will balanced math? with Ben Solomon (Ep 54)
    Sep 12 2025
    In this episode, Anna Stokke speaks with Dr. Ben Solomon, professor and researcher at the University at Albany with expertise in math assessment and intervention. Ben returns to the podcast to discuss “balanced math” and the recently released New York math briefs, which are part of the state’s numeracy initiative, and are set to shape professional development across New York. He explains why he and his colleagues launched a petition calling for the retraction of the briefs, pointing to omissions, misleading claims, and misuse of the term “evidence based.” They also unpack common math myths, such as the claim that timed tests cause math anxiety, and highlight the importance of explicit instruction while drawing parallels to balanced literacy and the reading wars. This timely conversation is essential for educators, policymakers, and anyone committed to improving math education. This episode is also available in video at www.youtube.com/@chalktalk-stokke Petition to Retract the New York Math Briefs: https://shorturl.at/bN7PF Masterclass: Evidence-informed Mathematics Teaching, La Trobe University https://shortcourses.latrobe.edu.au/masterclass-evidence-informed-mathematics-teaching TIMESTAMPS [00:00:23] Introduction [00:04:22] Understanding the New York Math Briefs [00:09:46] The science of learning and its frameworks [00:16:18] Myth 1: Time Testing causes Math Anxiety [00:22:00] Myth 2: Explicit Instruction is Only for Students with Disabilities [00:27:10] What is Explicit Instruction? [00:29:45] The Importance of Explicit Instruction [00:34:07] Similarities between Balanced Literacy and Balanced Math [00:38:30] The Fundamental Misunderstandings of Explicit Instruction [00:41:51] Myth 3: Structured Practice of Math Facts and Standard Algorithms Isn’t Useful [00:43:56] Misconceptions about Conceptual Understanding [00:47:13] Myth 4: Discovery Learning Should be Prioritized in the Early Stages of Acquisition [00:51:50] The New York Math Scores [00:57:03] The Benefits of Math Fluency Programs [00:58:52] Replacement Documents for the New York Math Briefs [1:05:38] Final Thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Red flags in education research with Dr. Ben Solomon https://www.annastokke.com/podcast/episode/3a372141/red-flags-in-education-research-with-ben-solomon-ep-23 How to build automaticity with math facts (Anna Stokke) https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-3ny3k-17323a9 Math fact crisis: strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/math-fact-crisis-strategies-for-improving-numeracy-with-brian-poncy/ Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/ep-17-do-timed-tests-cause-math-anxiety-with-robin-codding/ Universal screening in math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/universal-screening-in-math-with-amanda-vanderheyden-ep-50/ From decline to top rankings: How England transformed education with Nick Gibb https://chalkandtalkpodcast.podbean.com/e/from-decline-to-top-rankings-how-england-transformed-education-with-nick-gibb-ep-49/ Teachers Talk Radio https://www.ttradio.org/ RESOURCES Found here: https://www.annastokke.com/resources/ep-54-resources/ EPISODE TRANSCRIPT Found here: https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-54-transcript/ MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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    1 h et 10 min
  • Using the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)

    Using the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)
    Aug 22 2025

    In this episode, Anna Stokke chats with Brendan Lee, a teacher and educational consultant focused on bridging the gap between educational research and classroom practice. They discuss the instructional hierarchy and how teachers can tailor their teaching based on where students are in their learning journey––whether it’s the acquisition, fluency, generalisation, or adaptation stage. Brendan shares practical strategies and actionable advice that teachers can immediately apply in the classroom to better support student learning. This is an insightful discussion that will leave educators feeling informed, inspired, and ready to take on their next lesson.

    Brendan Lee’s website: www.learnwithlee.net

    This episode is also available in video at www.youtube.com/@chalktalk-stokke

    TIMESTAMPS

    [00:00:23] Introduction

    [00:03:15] Understanding the Instructional Hierarchy

    [00:04:40] The acquisition stage

    [00:08:28] Teacher’s Talk Radio

    [00:10:39] Students’ struggles in the acquisition stage

    [00:12:48] Effective teaching techniques in the acquisition stage

    [00:19:37] Think-alouds: The meaning and purpose

    [00:23:45] Concrete-Pictorial-Abstract

    [00:33:47] Backwards fading method

    [00:34:58] Make or break method

    [00:36:50] Fluency stage: what teaching techniques work best

    [00:47:34] Generalization/adaptation stage

    [00:55:11] When to use teaching tools

    [01:00:55] Advice for new teachers using the Instructional Hierarchy

    RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES

    Reclaiming learning time to boost literacy and numeracy with Ross Fox https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bpy4n-188c9c5

    Supporting students with math difficulties with Sarah Powell https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-ciqgm-17def6b

    Math fact crisis: Strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-u9y84-165d773

    Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e

    Cognitive load theory in math class with David Morkunas https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-znh5k-15f793

    EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

    https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-53-transcript

    MUSIC

    Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it

    Website: www.annastokke.com

    X: @rastokke

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c

    Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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    1 h et 3 min
  • The case for practice and the power of Math Corps with Alex Kontorovich (Ep 52)

    The case for practice and the power of Math Corps with Alex Kontorovich (Ep 52)
    Jul 28 2025

    In this episode, Anna Stokke has an engaging conversation Dr. Alex Kontorovich, a math professor at Rutgers University with a strong passion for math outreach. They explore why practice in math is often undervalued compared to disciplines like music or sports. They also discuss Math Corps, which is a summer math program for kids that combines evidence-based learning strategies with high expectations. Alex recently founded a Math Corps chapter in New Brunswick, New Jersey. The episode wraps up with a lively discussion about A Mathematician's Lament by Paul Lockhart, sparked by a comment from a listener. Whether you're a teacher, a parent, a mathematician, or simply someone interested in education, this episode has something for you.

    This episode is available in video at www.youtube.com/@chalktalk-stokke

    TIMESTAMPS

    [00:00:00] Introduction

    [00:02:54] The value of math practice

    [00:08:11] Engaging in math outreach

    [00:11:44] Rutgers Math Corps: Structure and curriculum

    [00:21:41] When research confirms what experience already knew

    [00:24:05] Why times tables fluency matters

    [00:30:07] Science of learning techniques in Math Corps

    [00:35:42] Using hand gestures and building classroom culture

    [00:40:01] Gamification

    [00:42:23] Why well-meaning schools still produce poor results

    [00:49:37] Discussion on A Mathematician's Lament

    [01:16:03] Conclusion and final thoughts

    RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES

    How we learn: Naïve, purposeful, and deliberate practice with Stephen Chew https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-mrwn2-18adce0

    Math Academy: Optimizing student learning with Alex Smith and Justin Skycak https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jawpr-181e0c3

    Applying cognitive science to education with Daniel Willingham https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-szugf-149dff1

    Modern relevance in the math curriculum with Brian Conrad https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-gek66-148967a

    EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

    https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-52-transcript

    EPISODE RESOURCES

    https://www.annastokke.com/resources/ep-52-resources

    MUSIC

    Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it

    Website: www.annastokke.com

    X: @rastokke

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c

    Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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    1 h et 17 min
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