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Be inspired and learn from insiders of the climbing industry. We interview routesetters, coaches, managers of gyms and brands, and legendary figures from our sport.Copyright 2023 All rights reserved. Hygiène et mode de vie sain Économie
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  • Hiring Is Sacred – Jonathan Brandt
    Jul 25 2025

    Today on the Climbing Business Journal Podcast, host John Burgman meets with Jonathan Brandt. Jonathan is one of the co-founders of a new climbing gym in Holland, Michigan, called Shift. It's a 12,000-square-foot, bouldering-focused facility, and by Jonathan's own admission, there aren't a lot of bells and whistles in the gym, meaning there aren't a ton of fancy accouterments or amenities that are too far afield from climbing. Inside the space is primarily a bunch of really cool boulders and the community of staff and stoke that has developed around those blocks.

    Jonathan has been in or around the climbing industry for about 20 years. So, Shift’s founding comes with a lot of expertise and experience. You'll hear Jonathan explain how and why he felt the timing was right now, after all these years, to finally open his own gym. And he acknowledges there are a ton of other bouldering gyms out there right now. So, the question becomes: How do you stand out in this day and age? How do you set your new gym apart from the pack? There are several ways to answer that question, but Jonathan's contention is that, in the case of Shift, it has a lot to do with the staff you hire and the culture that staff helps to build.

    General Topics Covered
    • Introduction to Shift
    • Holland, Michigan and Gym Development
    • Mission and Business Philosophy
    • Staffing and Culture
    • Family Meals and Staff Development
    • Hospitality and Community Building
    • Hold Room Design and Wall Construction
    • Marketing and Future Plans
    Show Notes
    • Shift
    • Shift Instagram: @shiftclimbing

    Thank you Approach and Kilter for your support! And thank you Devin Dabney for your music!

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    1 h et 19 min
  • How the Scientific Method Informs Routesetting – Carly Snidow
    Jul 10 2025

    On this episode of the Climbing Business Journal podcast, host Holly Chen sits down with Carly Snidow. Carly is a routesetter at Vital’s Lower East Side location in Manhattan, New York. She has been climbing for almost a decade, and her setting career started like many others—setting college climbing walls and bugging local routesetters. Now, Carly is a USAC Level 1 routesetter with a dozen competitions under her belt up to the divisionals level. She has set for several citizens' comps as well, including Siege the Southeast. Carly is also a coach and personal trainer. Prior to setting, Carly studied philosophy, neuroscience and psychology. She has extensive lab experience spanning multiple disciplines, from microbiology to behavioral neuroscience and developmental psychology. Carly brings that scientific lens to the show today, challenging how we think about goal setting and success in the routesetting field.

    General Topics Covered
    • How the scientific method can inform routesetting
    • The most common success indicator for setters in climbing competitions: separation
    • Breaking away from separation as the only success indicator
    • What is inductive reasoning, and how does it relate to routesetting
    • Process versus outcome-oriented goal setting
    • How do process and outcome-oriented goal setting influence our perception in climbing and routesetting
    Show Notes
    • Find Carly Snidow on Instagram
    • Vital, Lower East Side
    • Inductive Logic
    • Hippocampal and amygdala volumes vary with residential proximity to toxicants at Birmingham, Alabama's 35th Avenue Superfund site
    Closing Notes

    If you’d like to nominate someone as a guest, have a topic you want to see us tackle, or have questions, we’d love for you to reach out.

    The Impact Driver podcast is a production of the Climbing Business Journal. Today’s episode is sponsored by Butora and Essential Climbing. It was edited and produced by Holly Yu Tung Chen, Scott Rennak, and the team at CBJ. Our theme music is by Devin Dabney.

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    1 h et 3 min
  • Group Climbing Gym Insurance Breakdown – Mark Grossman and Will Jorgensen
    Jul 3 2025

    On this episode of the Climbing Business Journal Podcast, host Scott Rennak meets with Mark Grossman and Will Jorgensen of the Monument Sports Group. They manage the US Group Insurance Plan for our industry in partnership with the CWA, and they cover hundreds of climbing walls. Mark and Will have deep experience in facility operations. You'll hear on today’s show about their backgrounds, how they approach their insurance work, and the headwinds the indoor climbing industry is facing.

    General Topics Covered
    • Monument Sports Group Company Background and Experience
    • Industry-Specific Insurance Challenges
    • Risk Management & Documentation Requirements
    • Post-Pandemic Legal Environment Changes
    • Routesetting Certification Evolution
    • Auto Belay Safety & Technology
    • Current Market & Political Factors
    • Business Operations Support
    Show Notes
    • CWA Insurance Program
    • Monument Sports Group
    • DOXA

    Thank you OnSite and Rock Gym Pro for your support! And thank you Devin Dabney for your music!

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    1 h et 30 min

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