In this episode of the Disaster.Stream Podcast, host Bill Alderson sits down with Bill Genovese, CIO Executive Advisor at Kyndryl, to explore one of the most high-stakes failures in modern banking: a nationwide ATM outage during a holiday weekend.

Drawing from decades of global experience with IBM, Kyndryl, and Big Four consulting, Genovese shares how banking systems can unravel in moments — and why recovery often requires more than just technology. Together, they examine how black swan events (rare, catastrophic failures) and gray swan events (compounding, foreseeable risks) threaten not just banks but entire national economies.

🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode:

• The true impact of a bank losing all ATMs before a holiday
• Black swan vs. gray swan risks — and why multiple gray swans can be worse
• Lessons from IBM’s global SWAT teams on crisis response and remediation
• How banking regulations, international oversight, and resilience standards shape recovery strategies
• Why digital transformation and multi-cloud dependencies increase complexity
• Practical lessons financial institutions can adopt to build resilience

👥 Featured voices:

• Bill Genovese (Kyndryl) — global expert on financial services architecture, resiliency, and risk advisory
• Nick Leghorn (New York Times) — application security leader, on how to write cybersecurity policies people will actually follow
• ISSA (Information Systems Security Association) — professional community strengthening global cybersecurity practices

💡 Key Takeaway:

There is no cookie-cutter solution for disaster recovery. Each bank and enterprise has a unique “technology fingerprint” that requires holistic analysis across people, process, and technology. True resilience means planning for the compounding risks of our interconnected world.

In this episode of the Disaster.Stream Podcast, host Bill Alderson takes you inside one of the most critical — and least understood — battles of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars: the fight to keep U.S. military biometric intelligence systems running in the middle of the digital war.

Bill recounts how he was called by Army G2 at the Pentagon and deployed with U.S. CENTCOM to Iraq when a biometric watchlist system—used to identify insurgents through fingerprints, iris scans, and facial recognition—failed at a crucial moment. With millions of records in play and soldiers depending on accurate intelligence at checkpoints and bases, the failure threatened operational readiness.

🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode:

• How biometric systems were used to enroll entire populations in Fallujah and beyond
• The technical challenges of scaling biometric databases during wartime
• Why replication delays and network bottlenecks nearly crippled the system mid-war
• How battlefield packet analysis and root cause troubleshooting restored operations
• Lessons learned that still apply today in cybersecurity, disaster recovery, and digital identity management

👥 Special segments also feature:

• Charlene Deaver-Vasquez (FISMACS) on mathematical models for forecasting cyberattacks
• Jon DiMaggio, author of The Art of Cyber Warfare, with insights into nation-state cyber threats

From the Pentagon and CENTCOM to forward-deployed teams in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bill shares firsthand experiences of solving mission-critical failures when lives were on the line. These stories carry timeless lessons on incident response, readiness, and building resilient systems.

In this special interview, I sit down with Radia Perlman — the visionary computer scientist and inventor of the Spanning Tree Protocol (STP), often called the “Mother of the Internet.” Her groundbreaking work made modern Ethernet and switching possible, shaping the way every network operates today.

Radia shares her journey as a pioneer in networking, her reflections on how STP became a global standard, and her thoughts on why Layer 2 forwarding was always a compromise — and what the industry still gets wrong about it. We also look ahead at quantum-safe cryptography, CLNP vs. IP, and the future of protocols like QUIC.

🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode:

• How Radia invented Spanning Tree and why it was meant to be “just a temporary fix”
• Why network loops and misconfigurations are still a common cause of outages
• The missed opportunity of CLNP and what it could have meant for the Internet
• The realities (and misconceptions) around quantum computing and cryptography
• Radia’s candid thoughts on hype cycles like blockchain
• A preview of her keynote at SharkFest — bringing theory and practice together

👩‍💻 Beyond the protocols, Radia also reflects on her role as a trailblazer for women in technology, offering encouragement to the next generation of engineers and innovators.

Whether you’re a network engineer, a cybersecurity leader, or simply curious about the hidden foundations of the Internet, this conversation with Radia Perlman is packed with insights, lessons, and history you won’t find anywhere else.

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