Today’s guest began on YouTube — a teenager posting bedroom covers to a handful of viewers.

Now, his songs have been streamed billions of times across the globe.

He’s headlined sold-out arenas on multiple continents, become a global fashion force, and built one of the most devoted fanbases of his generation.

He’s collaborated with legends like Max Martin, while never losing the raw honesty that made his music essential in the first place.

He’s not just a rising star — he’s already one of pop’s defining voices.

And with his new album, he proves that even at the biggest scale, vulnerability is still his superpower.

And the writer is… Conan Gray!

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Thank you to NMPA for sponsoring this season, and fighting for songwriters as well as this podcast.

00:00 – This Is Conan Gray (teaser)

01:00 – Singing Disney With Ross 🎶

02:00 – From Bedroom Dreams to Billions

02:59 – Growing Up Lonely, Writing to Survive

04:45 – The Music Video That Rewired His Brain

06:30 – When Adele Proved Bedroom Songs Were Possible

07:30 – Uploading at Age 9 (Before He Knew the Internet)

14:15 – “Nothing Sounded Like Me”

15:45 – Panic Attacks → Falling in Love With Touring

21:15 – Dropping Out & Betting Everything on Music

23:20 – The Moment His Sister Realized He Was Famous

24:30 – Turning Heartbreak Into Healing on Stage

26:00 – The Nightmare of Empty Venues

28:30 – Dan Nigro: The Producer Who Changed Everything

30:15 – Why Conan Refuses to Believe He’s ‘Made It’

33:22 – Ad Break – Support Songwriters (NMPA)

34:00 – ‘Maniac’: The Shower Song That Hit a Billion 🚿

35:45 – Heather: The Song Everyone Slept On… Until They Didn’t

40:32 – Found Heaven: His Public Bootcamp

43:23 – Max Martin’s Biggest Lesson (That Changed His Writing)

47:00 – Rediscovering Himself on Wishbone

50:05 – The Falsetto High Note That Almost Broke Him

52:07 – Cornell: The Song Too Honest to Ignore

53:00 – Why Radical Honesty Is His Only Rule

55:00 – Why His Art Isn’t Just Music

56:00 – The Three Songs That Define His New Era

01:03:15 – What He’d Tell 12-Year-Old Conan

01:07:00 – Ross: “You Wrote a Song I Wish Was Mine”

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