In the shadow of Roe vs. Wade being overturned, it seemed fitting to release this podcast interview and feature the “shoes” of someone who has felt isolated during COVID due to not only pandemic restrictions but also for being harshly judged for her religious beliefs and correlating decisions. 

I invite you to get curious and learn about the shoes of Alice McIntosh - even if...no especially if they are very different than yours.  

Thanks to her mother, Alice learned at a young age how to get beyond the victim mindset and not let her circumstances keep her down. Her father died suddenly when Alice was only four years old, leaving her immigrant mom who couldn’t speak the language, didn’t have a job, and couldn’t drive a car, to raise her and her one year old sister. “It takes two to Tango” was the idea that resonated from her childhood and still guides her thinking today. There is always something you can do about your situation and always something you contribute.  

After earning her way through college playing volleyball, Alice made working for various national security agencies and government departments her life's career. But all of that almost came to an end when the vaccine was mandated for Federal employees. 

Listen in to hear how she navigated what felt like a mine field to her. Be inspired by how she found her voice – breaking free from the “old me” that was mired in a lack of self-confidence and introversion – and how she embraced trying new things and becoming more than she thought she could be. Learn about how she shifted her personality and shook off the weight of self-doubt. 

Within this episode, we also talk about several critical questions that Take Your Shoes Off First inspired her to ask and work through: 

• How do we come together to respect other people’s decisions? 
• How do we make space to HEAR and allow the perspective and experiences of another to influence what we think? 
•  What are we missing? 
• How do we really get curious about the shoes of another? 

To learn more about Alice...well, when you work in the national security field there are a lot of rules...but you can find her on LinkedIn. 

Bonus in this episode, if you have been wondering what Humergence is, there is an intro in here!