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 Show Description In this episode of Foundations and Functions, Dr. C.J. Pabla and Dr. Jason Amich dive into the groundbreaking Four Point Hormone Panel—a tool they've developed to bring clarity and insight to women struggling with unexplained hormonal symptoms. Drawing from personal experiences and years of clinical practice, the doctors explain how traditional hormone testing often fails to account for the natural fluctuations in female physiology. By testing key hormones four times throughout the menstrual cycle, they’re able to map a more accurate picture of what's really happening in the body—and finally validate what so many women have been told to ignore: "Everything's normal" doesn't always mean everything's okay. Dr. Amich and Dr. Pabla break down the science behind the panel and share how it's transforming the way they help patients address symptoms like anxiety, depression, infertility, and fatigue. From hormone behavior to root causes like thyroid dysfunction, PCOS, and even environmental toxins, this episode is packed with eye-opening insights into how functional medicine can restore balance and well-being. Whether you’ve been dismissed by traditional care or you’re simply curious about a deeper approach to hormonal health, this episode will help you ask better questions—and understand your body like never before. Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. The content is not a substitute for professional medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of a qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. If you would like more detailed medical information, please contact Integrative Medicine through their website at https://integrativemla.com/ Show Transcription 3 0:00 Welcome to Foundations and Functions weekly podcast, where we return to when medicine actually made you better. Now here's Dr. Jason Amick and Dr. C.J. 6 0:14 Pabla. 2 0:16 This is Dr. C.J. Pabla with Dr. Jason Amick. Welcome to our Foundations and Functions podcast. Today we're going to be talking about the Four Point Hormone Panel and kind of like why we decided to do the Four Point Hormone Panel. So I'm going to pass it on to my partner, Dr. Amick. Why don't you tell us kind of how you came up with this concept and how it really has 2 0:40 helped our patients? 1 0:41 Dr. Amick Morse Yeah, thanks so much. So, you know, one of the things that I say pretty frequently is, you know, I'm a girl dad, and constantly in my life, you know, I've been faced with situations, you know, with my daughters and my wife, and I just think, wow, dudes don't put up with that. 1 0:58 You know, a dude would never go through that the way you guys do that. And so, you know, in seeing a lot of our patients, female patients who come in really frustrated, and they hear kind of the same thing, like, well, you know, I haven't felt well, I haven't felt well, and my doctor just tells me everything is normal. My labs are normal, my hormones are normal, but I don't feel well. And you know, I kind of thought about that for a while, and it occurred to me, biologically, dudes 1 1:30 are dumb. I mean, from a biological perspective, our hormones are really pretty basic. You're 10 years old, you're 12 years old, boom, you hit puberty, your testosterone spikes, kind of hangs out there. Yeah, maybe in your late 30s and 40s, your testosterone may waver a little bit, 1 1:47 but female physiology, their hormones change daily. Daily, and it's a cycle that they go through every single month. And so, one of the things that I thought of was, what does normal mean when you talk about an estrogen level? So we know the range of estrogen can be, depending on where you are in your cycle, 4 to 400, 1 2:14 generally speaking. And that's a huge range. And so I applied that and I thought, well, gosh, 71 is normal. But is it always 71? Is 71 the highest that you get? Is 71 the lowest that you get? 1 2:32 And so, yeah, I mean, it would be great to, as scientists and as nerds that we are, to get as many data points as possible. But it's really hard to get people to come in and get blood drawn every day for 28, 32 days. 5 2:46 Right. 1 2:47 So really we work with our lab. We've got a great relationship with our lab that keeps a lot of costs down for patients who pay out of pocket. And so we're able to actually put together this panel that includes an estrogen level, progesterone level, luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, prolactin, and testosterone. 1 3:07 And we can actually sample that on a patient four different times during their menstrual cycle for really low ...

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