Very special friend and parental teammate of the pod, Trevor Chow-Fraser (he/him) joins us this week. The conversation includes a great reminder that while we may see room for growth, that does not mean that we aren’t currently doing a good job! This week's listener voicemail covers the decisions that can arise when kids enter into new administrative spaces, like kindergarten, and the tricky navigation between gender presentation and passing, filling out forms, and identity.

Recommendations this week include the tv shows Bluey and She-Ra, Breathe: Journeys to healthy binding by Maia Kobabe and Sarah Peitzmeier, PhD, and the site https://www.outcarehealth.org/outlist/ to help find queer and trans friendly health care providers. For those in Ontario, also check out the Rainbow Health Ontario Service Directory https://www.rainbowhealthontario.ca/lgbt2sq-health/service-provider-directory/

For more Trevor, check out his podcast at http://letsfindoutpodcast.com.

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Join us on the playground with fellow ‘gender nerd’ and this week's guest, S. Bear Bergman (he/him). In this episode, we chat about Bear's new book, Special Topics In Being A Parent: A Queer and Tender Guide to Things I've Learned About Parenting, Mostly the Hard Way, and answer a listener-submitted voicemail from Steph! We talk to Bear about the benefits of leading with personal experience rather than a position of expertise when it comes to parenting advice, and his desire to write a book about caretaking that didn't gender the parenting experience. We then dive into Steph's voicemail all about gender neutral parenting.

Recommendations this week include Ben Greene’s Substack Good Queer News and Morgan M. Page’s podcast One From the Vaults. Marcelle’s recommendation this week is to run for your local municipal government or school board!

You can find Bear on his website https://www.sbearbergman.com/, Instagram (@bearbergman), or Blusky (@sbearbergman).

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We are back with just as touching and insightful of a conversation in part II of our interview with Kai Cheng Thom (she/her). In this episode, we respond to listener voicemail, from Fig, seeking insight on how to support kids when they enter school and start facing broader societal pressures and gendered expectations. Marcelle, Raimi and Kai Cheng chat about the parental desire to fix problems and make a safe and easy world for kids, especially when the world and its problems feel big and overwhelming. While we can't immediately rid the world of its problems, the group discusses the value in maintaining the home as a safe place; for exploration and self-expression for your kids and their friends, as well as a place for kids to find the self-love and courage to navigate difficult situations.

Recommendations this week include a children's book by Kai Cheng Thom, From The Stars In The Sky To The Fish In The Sea, as well as Histories of The Transgender Child, and A Short History of Trans Misogyny both by Jules Gill-Peterson, and a listener submission from Erica B, To Survive On This Shore by Jess T. Dugan and Vanessa Fabbre. Marcelle also recommends getting your kids into DnD or any tabletop role playing game!

You can find Kai Cheng Thom on instagram and substack @kaichengthom, and on bluesky @razorfemme.

All of Kai Cheng Thom’s writing and work can be found at her website kaichengthom.com.

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“A late repair is always better than no repair. Awkward repair is always better than imaginary repair. And an imperfect repair is always better than one that isn't tried at all.”

We are beyond excited, to share with you, our conversation with the brilliant and insightful Kai Cheng Thom. We loved this conversation so much that we felt we had to share the whole thing with you, so this is part 1 of 2! In this episode, we ask Kai Cheng how to address hurt or harm we may have caused a trans or gender non-conforming kid in our life and the possibilities for repair. We chat about the importance of self-reflection for parents when encountering their own gender ghosts, to better accept and love gender non-conformity in ourselves and others. We round off this first part of our conversation thinking about how to embrace being imperfect parents and care-givers as a way to reduce the chance of causing harm and increase success in repair.

Recommendations will be included in the second half of the episode released next week! However, the writer mentioned by Kai Cheng Thom was Diane Ehrensaft and the books referenced were Gender Born, Gender Made and The Gender Creative Child.

All of Kai Cheng Thom’s writing and work can be found at her website kaichengthom.com.

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In this episode, Marcelle and Raimi are in conversation with a very special guest, Nehiyaw (Cree) Elder Richard Jenkins. Elder Richard Jenkins chats with us about what being an elder means to him, as well as 2-spirit as a placeholder term for gender and sexual diversity, and ᐁᔨᐦᑵᐤ (eyihkwew; not man, not woman, something in between) as a conceptual way of being that can see and understand multiple perspectives. We are grateful for Richard sharing teachings with us as he touches on the Nehiyaw practice of noninterference as a core principle for how to guide and support children. The trio, as always, finish with recommendations, including; The Travelers of Casteia by Beck DeTrempe, 2 Spirits in Motion Society, and The Non-Binary Bunny by Maia Kobabe.

The 2-Spirit documentary mentioned by Marcelle is “Re:Membering Stories of the 2Spirit Indigenous HIV/AIDS Movement” and can be found on the CAAN (Communities, Alliances and Networks) website.

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In this episode, we are joined by comedian, podcaster, and author Charlie James. We begin with an unexpected (but charming) introduction to Pamphlet, Charlie’s cat, followed by Charlie’s very thoughtful answer to our silly question wheel. Charlie discusses his experience transitioning while building a comedy career in the public eye and then we turn our attention to a listener-submitted voicemail asking how to respond when a child comes out to you as trans. Raimi and Charlie consider the question, “what did I need to hear?” and the group chats about leading with joy, enthusiasm, and curiosity.

As always, we finish with recommendations: Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur’s deleted episode “The Gatekeeper” from Disney+, the Trans Youth Emergency Project, and x + y: A Mathematician's Manifesto for Rethinking Gender by Eugenia Cheng.

Most importantly, make sure to check out and pre-order Charlie's new book, I’m Just A Little Guy: How to escape the horrors and get back to dillydallying, coming out fall 2025!

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Welcome back to the playground! To kick off our second season, we are joined by close friend of the pod, and Marcelle’s Material Girls's co-host, Hannah McGregor! Marcelle and Raimi chat with Hannah about their experience as a Gay Auntie ™ and the “angry, monstrous, and free” inspiration that dinosaurs offer to kids — and kids at heart. The team then answers a voicemail from Nici in Germany and consider how one might approach giving gifts to friends’ children while respecting primary caretakers' boundaries.

As always, we finish we recommendations, including; From the Stars in the Sky to the Fish in the Sea, by Kai Cheng Thom, I Want To Be A Vase by Julio Torres, and the webshop trans*fabel. We'll be back next week for episode two!

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As we wrap up this first season of Gender Playground, we are thinking about the future! In this episode, Marcelle and Raimi consider the importance of seeing trans adults living joyful, creative, and fulfilling lives. Marcelle tells Raimi how much they informed her own relationship to Billie's future. Raimi offers insight into the normalcy around parental worry, and offers some advice on how to relate to fear in a way that protects trans kids in your life. Together they offer some recommendations and resources and we end with a very special shoutout to our episode ten sponsor.

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Gender Playground is a new show from Witch, Please Productions and is co-hosted by longtime friends Marcelle Kosman and Raimi Marx. This podcast is all about gender-affirming care for the kids in your life, and YOU are the intended audience! Whether you're a caregiver, parent, family-member, chosen-family-member, teacher, doctor, childcare professional, or just someone who wants to create a more loving world for kids, this show is for you!

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