Derek and Carl discuss the dumb gear that they (mainly Carl) has been making fun of for years. On the most recent trip to Catalina, Carl brought 8 items that he thinks are downright terrible. He gave them all a fair shake. What actually changed his mind? And what crazy things happened along the way?

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-Backpacking gear

-Useless backpacking gear

-Crazy Catalina Backpacking Gear Stories

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