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In this soul-deep conversation, I sit with Henry Shukman—poet, Zen teacher, and author of Original Love—as he shares his life-altering awakening on a solitary beach at 19. We explore how a spontaneous experience of cosmic oneness shattered his rational worldview, the crushing depression that followed, and how meditation became his lifeline through suicidal darkness. Henry reveals what neuroscience says about timeless consciousness, why ‘emptiness’ is full of everything, and how surrendering to divine guidance (what he calls ‘getting the email’) rewires suffering into grace. If you’ve ever felt separate, stuck in time, or longed to touch the fabric of all-that-is, this episode is a love letter to your soul’s wholeness."

TIMESTAMPED OVERVIEW

00:00 Intro

00:09 Announcements: Couples Podcast, Angel Reiki School, Readings

03:00 Julie’s Gratitude for Listeners

03:36 Guest Introduction: Henry Shukman, Author of Original Love

04:48 The "Three People Walk into Heaven" Analogy

08:25 Henry’s Beach Awakening: Oneness & Timeless Love

11:30 The Aftermath: Trauma, Depression & Suicidal Thoughts

17:43 How Meditation Saved Henry’s Life

23:43 Reconnecting with Parents Through Boundaries

28:57 Time Illusion: Stepping into the Eternal Now

35:51 "Getting the Email": Divine Guidance & Surrender

38:42 Neuroscience of Awakening: Brain Networks & Oneness

48:46 Zen Koans, Arrival, & Communicating Beyond Time

50:36 Henry’s Meditation App "The Way" & Book Details

52:49 Closing Gratitude